Michael Jackson To Convert To Islam?

Michael Jackson To Convert To Islam?


So much trouble, so little time

American pop star Michael Jackson has officially announced that he has been following the five tenets of Islam and intends to convert to Islam, according to a report on the website of Arab-Israeli newspaper Panorama.

The report is based on information elicited from sources in Bahrain.

According to the report, Jackson’s announcement noted he is moving to Bahrain and has purchased some real-estate on an artificial island there. The singer said he decided to convert to Islam because he is convinced it is the closest religion to his personal beliefs.

Jackson also noted he intends to soon move all his assets and his studio from the U.S. to Bahrain, and expressed his hope to be rid of various legal troubles and enjoy the kind of freedom he says he does not have in America.

Notably, if the reports are correct Jackson would not be the first member of his family to make the move to Islam. His brother, Jermaine, who moved to the Gulf nation of Dubai, is also a convert.

According to the sources, Jermaine was the one to provide his famous brother with books about Islam and encouraged him to convert. The report says the pop star read the books and even added his comments on some pages.

Personally, I don’t believe this…but this is the very bottom of the heirarchy (meaning, it’s not very important to me…and yet, I blog).

In short, this sucks…

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  • http://punditdrome.com Scott Ferguson

    I don’t understand. Explain why this sucks.

  • http://www.mightymiddle.com michael reynolds

    Muslims must have rather mixed reactions to this news. Not enough that their religion is associated with all manner of murderous whack jobs, now they have a child molesting freak signing up.

  • http://www.thex.com/rd/ the english guy

    Curiously, what is the age of marriage in Islam? Much younger than western nations, right? That’s why it sucks Scott…

  • http://www.hatsofmeat.com Noodles

    On the one hand, Michael Jackson is a dancer and most likely a homosexual, both are forbidden in Islam and punishable by beatings or death.

    On the other hand, he is also a child-rapist, which makes him just like the prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him).

    There are your mixed rections, Reynolds. =P

  • http://www.kozoru.com Justin Gardner

    It just seems like he’s trying to convert to some religion to get out of the trouble he’s in.

    Not a really good decision in my opinion.

    But hey, if it’ll help him then I hope it does. He needs it.

  • mike

    That is good news he is converted. atleast he will feel true happiness in Islam. Also, he will use his talent for islam, just like Cat Stevens the pop star, using his talent for Islam. so, why dont you read about Islam? and try it? trust me, if you become a muslim, you will never trade for $100000000000000.

  • George W.

    Of course, this is a made up story. Jews inventing things to make him look even more bad for callng them leeches.

  • George W.

    And by the way, this is 5th or 6th time in last 10 years sthat it is reported that he converted to Islam. The first time I heard of this was in 1994, after first accusations. They also reported he made a mosque. The last time they said he converted was two years ago. And here we go again.

  • http://www.kozoru.com Justin Gardner

    Alright George W., you’re obviously a troll. You’re banned.

  • http://thelastdestination.blogspot Readandponder

    thank you to Allah it the news is true. Have you read the bible or do really understand it.
    Dear Noodles
    I wonder why there are so many lewd words, incest,rape and sexs in the bible. In case you have not read the bible I quote
    Rape and sex in Bible

    Howbeit he (Annom, one of the sons of David) would not hearken unto her (his sister Tamar’s) voice, but being stronger than she, forced (raped ) her and lay (had sex) with her. (2 Samuel 13:!4)

    Next time, before you say some thing please think twice, Do not say anything you yourself do have no knowledge. Read !!!

  • http://thelastdestination.blogspot Readandponder

    An Invitation to the truth

    Please read and ponder
    http//: http://www.answereing-christianity.com

    Christianity has similar rituals and ideas with early Pagan religions- The Egytians and Parsians Gods , – salvation, ressurection,
    Find out about Osiris .
    The US should give respect to the Persians and think twice before trying to create another war , this is the place where early civilization i.e rituals and belief, is adopted and adapted into Christianity..

  • john


    Jackson being a dancer makes him gay? or is it the child molesting thing? Either way, it is no justification of being gay. Most child molesters are heterosexual men with children. Therefore it is more likely that he is straight… if you want to make broad generalizations about sexuality. Then again he is a dancer too.

  • http://www.hatsofmeat.com Noodles

    “I wonder why there are so many lewd words, incest,rape and sexs in the bible.”

    Precisely!!! Finally we have a muslim that admits that there are statements from scriptures that justify violence, rape conquest ect.. In the Bible AND the Quran.

    Two points:
    1) As Christians and Muslims, we are both Judeo-Supersessionist religions, that is, Jesus and Muhammad claimed to fulfill the prophecy of the Torah, and establish new kingdoms on Earth. Where there is conflict between the torah and new testement or torah and Quran, we interpret the latter to be true. Christians forgoe the laws of Leviticus and Deuteronomy, because only 2 commandments were truly important to Christ: Love God, and Love your Neighbor (Mark12:28-31)

    Also, I put it to you that the message of christianity is not to conquer the world by force and punish non-believers. When the catholic church endorsed the crusades or the inquisitions, the church was wrong and un-Christ-like to do so. The Vatican takes responsibility for such a bloody past, has apologized, and doesn’t do that stuff anymore. The apostle Paul said: For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds, Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God (letters 10:4-5)

    2)The laws of the Sharia (including stoning aldulteress to death, killing of children who dishonor families by pre-marital sex ect..) are often lifted from the Old testiment; However, how many Jews do you know of today that practice these archaine laws? Not a single Jew in this world has 4 wives or stones their cheating wives to death in public, or owns slaves (even though the Torah justifies this behavior) A large percentage of Muslims world-wide today practice these abhorant laws because they believe they cannot be interpreted differently from the 7th century. Stop blaming the Jews for all your problems and learn from them instead. Reform your religion and join the modern world.

  • http://Donklephant Leon

    Michael Jacksons family religion is “Jehovahs Witness”. Does him purchasing a home in “Barain” means he’s turned in his religious affiliation? There’s many muslims living in other nations whose retained their religious beliefs. The question is valid, but to make snide remarks about him being gay and a child molester is wrong and defaming. He has been proven innocent of all charges concerning this. Michael Jackson has made some very bad decisions pertaining to his relationships with children, and I do reconized that he has put himself in many positions that give rise to some of the accusations claimed against him. I saw it as an attempt to defame( the prosecutor)a icon in American society. Due to his many naieve beliefs and thoughts which to some borders on psychoanalytical responses.. Many have tried to gain financially by putting themselves in a position to use this naievete to “claim” what many in the public see as a pedophilic desire. Where he resides in no way give rise to the malicious slander centered around the issue.

  • http://vernondent.blogspot.com/ Callimachus

    I’m not entirely sure how Muslims regard Jehovah’s Witnesses, and it’s possible there’s more than one school of thought in the faith on that. But if they are seen as a post-Christian religion, and I think that’s possible, a JW would be denied even dhimmi status under a reasonably strict Islam. M.J. would face a choice: convert or die.

    Who knows what goes on inside Michael Jackson’s libido? I suspect it is a complex and demon-haunted place. He seems to have issues relating to children, innocence, and childhood. They seem to tie back into his own childhood. This is not unusual in itself, but when couple with the glare of celebrity and the power of wealth, the demons can be magnified.

    I don’t judge him. I don’t envy him at all. Islam, with its strict personal requirements, might be good for him. The absolute liberty he enjoyed as the King of Pop became a torture. I hope he finds freedom in submission.

  • salman

    Michael jackson having converted to Islam is delightful finally he is set on the right path. Unfortunately the Christian religion is what demoralized him and so many other youth out there.
    How many chrisitan vs Muslim homo sexuals and child rapists do we have?
    Why are most priests raping children?
    Why are christian governments declaring gay marraiges legal?
    of course we know why because chiristianity allows so
    Islam on the other hand encompasses all
    Id like to clarify something
    Mohammad (peace be upon him) was in no way a child rapist! again a story made up by the jews
    He married Ayesha but consummated with her only when she was old enough
    The Quran does not mention rape! or child sex! these are issues solely generating from the demoralization of western values
    May ALLAH guide us ALL

  • http://none ENEMY of JEWS(kaafir)

    NOODLES U happen to be the biggest loser for having said anything against our beloved Prophet(peace be upon him)
    Ours is the oldest religion,yet its teachings are the most modern…so u’d better think of reforming ur religion first.

  • http://vernondent.blogspot.com/ Callimachus

    Oh, now it gets interesting. I’m afraid all this will be deleted when the boss sees it. A shame, in a way. It’s quite illustrative.

  • burhan

    starting in the name of allah
    It is very odd from some of you that are not
    encouraging him at all i think you all forget that he was the man who you all love in 1990 bec of his songs and now he has change his religon you all hate him
    what is this is he now outcast or something
    or you people hate muslim
    didnt your religon tell that not to backbit on other religon if your not mien does.

  • http://none ENEMY of JEWS(kaafir)

    how to confirm the news abt jackson converting to Islam?

  • http://none ENEMY of JEWS

    any link confirming Jackson’s conversion to ISLAM?

  • http://www.orkut.com ENEMY of JEWS

    I agree with salman

  • http://www.hatsofmeat.com Noodles

    I agree with Cal, this is getting good. I guess I should take back my comments, since the ENEMY of the JEWs says i’m wrong.

    The boss must be proud of the fans that read his blog.

  • John

    Salman- Isn’t saying that Muhammed waited 4-6 years to have sex with his wife as ridiculous as saying that Mary was a Virgin and conceived Jesus. Times were different then. People married and had children much younger. It is only a “sin” now, and is considered child rape. Relax, saying that Muhammed had sex with his adolescent wife is not a negative given the time period that it occured. Calling it Child Rape is ludicrous when you take that into consideration.

  • John

    Enemy of Jews-

    Girlfriend you got fags in Islam, They just don’t admit it because of people like you.

  • http://www.hatsofmeat.com Noodles

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88 Narrated ‘Urwa: “The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old”

    Hey John, I guess Mohammad couldn’t hold out for that 9-year-old booty, but times were different then I guess.

  • mani

    We wel come Michel Jackson to the religion of peace, ISLAM, meaning peace. Now many Christians may feel bad about it but we did not forced him to accept Islam and it is forbidden in Islam to force some one to become Muslim, it can only be through the personal inclination and Allah’s guidance that one understands and accepts Islam.
    I invite any die hard Christian who thinks that he cannot be influenced by Islam, he should just read a good English translation of Holy Quran written by a good Muslim scholar, I suggest Maulana Maudodi’s translation of Holy Quran with commentry.If he read it with the intent to understand the point of view of Muslims positively, I am quite sure that he will be convinced in his heart without any doubts that it is the literal word of God.
    So I do invite all sensible Christians to read the Holy Quran first and then say what ever they want to say. Quran will talk to you and will reveal many things, which you will be surprised to know that they are there in this holy book. Many unanswered questions in your life will be answered. All the gaps will be filled and missing links will be found. The confusions, chaos, frustrations, depressions and sicknesses of the heart and mind will be cured. The purpose of life and death will be high lighted and a new vision of life will emerge in you. The Allah (GOD) will open up your chest for understanding the message contained in there and will guide you to the right path leading to salvation. This is what happens to every one and that’s the reason that he converts to Islam and become peaceful—-because he finds all the missing answers to his confusing questions. Thank you.


    weLL noodles i were you, (thnk GOd which im not) i wudnt say like that ever ….. jUst for your betterment Plz dont use such words for Pbhu , sumthin more ugly might come in your way or even whu has read your posts ……..so

  • john


    Were you around at that time? I suspect Muhammed was not the only guy nailing nine year olds. I also doubt Jesus never had sex and was conceived of immaculate conception. Does it make any of these mythologies regarding your religion any more true? I don’t doubt that Muhammed did marry the six year old daughter of his best bud. I don’t doubt that he consumated their wedding at nine. What I’m saying is that you are judging another culture at another time with Modern American Christian standards. Apples and Oranges. I don’t think jumping on a nine year old is acceptable, now or then, but you can’t compare the two.

  • john

    Peace- Please slow down and write legibly

  • http://www.donklephant.com ISLAM RULES!

    i agree wid salman!
    noodles, u reely need 2 wake up! u are sooo lame, wat right do u hav goin round judgin and criticisin the holy prophet (peace be upon him)! ur seriously deluded! as a muslim, id neva go round sayin stuff like dat bout jesus and since i aint stoopin down at ur level, i aint going to! dont ya think its a bit of a coincidence, that out of all religions, mj has chosen ISLAM- the religion of peace and not judaism or hinduism?? eva bothered 2 ask urself?
    and by the way ”noodles”, ISLAM does allow the man to have 4 wives as all 4 wives will be treated equally! if ya dont no the 1st thing bout ISLAM, then i suggest u zip it coz ur jus makin a fool out of urself! cant u accept the fact that inshallah, with allah’s will, mj WILL accept islam or r u findin it a little 2 hard 2 accept? 1 more thing, in islam, marriage aint jus about sex, so u can get that thought out of ur sick mind! jus coz ur desper8 doesnt meen every1 else is or was!
    nowadays, every1’s got the wrong impression of islam due to media mainly but u will neva know the 1st thing bout the religion if u dont study, practise or believe in it!
    its pretty weird dont ya think- wat salman mentioned b4 bout the priests and dat, it wasnt sheiks or imams, it was preists! tut-tut-tut!
    noodles, i seriously think u need 2 get a life, summat unpleasant might come in ur way 4 even sayin stuff like dat about our beloved prophet so make sure ur awake and aware!
    GO ON MJ!!!!!!!

  • john

    Sniff, Sniff? why is it that all of a sudden there are Muslims out the butt on donklephant? I can’t think of hearing from so many in the past. And they all write the same like dumb asses. smells funny… get a life dumb ass or asses

  • http://www.hatsofmeat.com Noodles

    Is it just me or do you get the feeling that all these posts are all by the same guy?

    John, Mohammad specifically forbade sex with pre-pubescent girls, and alloted men up to only four wives; But because he was Gods favorite prophet, God allowed him to have sex with 9-yr old Aisha and have 25 wives too (according to many hadiths).

    There is other evidence that Aisha may have been adolescent (although most Muslims accept the authenticity of the hadiths) , which would be fine with me in the context of ancient cultures. I just think certain practices like pederasty, cannibalism, and human sacrifice are out of line no matter what time or place we live in.

  • john

    But noodles, that’s not what you implied. You implied that the religion was wrong because he had committed this act. Also, if your an adherent to the faith, God told him to take her as his wife, just as God told Abraham to kill his son and send his servant/lover and child off to the desert when his wife conceived their child (rough rememberances, but mostly right). These are all the mythologies of religion to me. And although you are not muslim, they do believe that God had condoned and sanctioned this marriage and act. Just like you believe christ died on the cross and rose after death to ascend to heaven.

  • Noodles

    My first post on this thread was meant to be darkly humorous considering the freakazoid nature of MJ and my personal views on the morally bankrupt ideology of fundamentalist Islam, which was endorsed by Mohammad himself.

    I don’t defend Joshua’s inhumane massacres in his conquest of canaan, nor Elijahs violent cleansing Isreal of idolaters, and since the Talmudic age 2000 years ago, Jews don’t either. They glean wisdom from the scripture and interpret it for modern life.

    If you are an adherent to a faith that requires you to beat insolent women, conquer new territory by force, and then subjugate or kill non-believers (because God told you so) then your faith is backward and needs to be reformed.

    There is a difference between a mythological story and a morality play. The virgin birth or ressurection can be compared to Muhamads ascending to heaven on a winged horse; but as for deciding whether Muhammad’s actions were morally right or wrong, its like apples and oranges.

  • http://www.donklephant.com ISLAM RULES!

    i got to say john, i dont remember any1 saying that this website was only 4 christians and jews! where does it say that? or do u need ur head testing as well like noodles?
    sniff! sniff! i think thats ur dirty breath! poooo! go and use ur mouthwash!
    if u hav got a problem with muslims i’d rather u cum out with it! dont judge our religion if ya dont no the 1st thing bout it! just grow up and get a life! i almost feel sorry 4 u! ALMOST!
    MJ’s making 1 of the best decisions in his life, 1 which he won’t regret so y dont u actually try READING the quran and see what it says, then (if u have the nerve) speak ur mind, coz as far as i can tell u aint got 1!

  • john

    Islam rules?

    I did not say that it was for christians or jews only, of which I am neither. What I said was I don’t remember so many Muslims ever coming on this site, of which I have serious doubts that you are one. You seem to be a guy who wants to smear Islam as a cult of ignorants, clearly stated by your adolescent postings. As for the point of the original post, Michael is more than welcome to join any religion he wishes. And being that he was never convicted of anything, whether he bought people off or not, In America that makes you not guilty. And that goes with or without my belief that he is a confused individual who has issues relating to children and adults a like. But Islam Rules, you are really should try to post as yourself, and not mock others. And if this is really you, you need to seriously consider your age in regard to your maturity level.

  • OneWhoBelieves

    It’s only a coincidence and my first time here at this blog. I don’t know what brought me here, but I’m kind of disturbed by reading some of the previous posts. It is incredible that ppl make assumptions so loudly w/o backing it up with actual facts from reliable sources. You can find positives and negatives to nearly everything and everyone on the net… but God has given us the senses to make the judgement call. We can’t beleive everything we hear, and then go on to spread it w/o verifying the source first… it’s the very least of our responsibility as posters.

    Islam is a religion of peace, and you cannot judge an entire nation by the acts of few… As for Muhammad (pbuh), He was the last prophet and among the most beloved by Allah and the people of that time, just as Jesus (pbuh) and Moses (pbuh). It is wrong to make allegations about the most influential person, calling him names He (pbuh) is cleary undeservent of. God has the ultimate wisdom and it was God who told Muhammad (pbuh) to marry Aisha (ra) for many reasons. Though she was the youngest, she was the most wise and knowledgable among the other wives (He had 11 wives btw, not 25.. all of whom were either previously married/widowed/old except Aisha). Muhammad (pbuh) displayed the best qualities as a husband and seeing that the only virgin he ever married was Aisha (ra), it shows He (pbuh) didnot marry for any lustful or physical reasons, for He could’ve married all beautiful and young women instead. Aisha (ra) was the last of His wives and she is creditted for passing down a handful of His (pbuh) teachings and practices… and maybe this was the wisom behind this marriage, and God knows best.

    I live in a Jewish neighborhood and alot of them marry their children at a young age comparatively speaking to what’s norm in America today. Does that make them child molesters? No. In today’s society it’s normal to marry in your 30’s/40’s whereas back in the days it was more normal to marry at a younger age.

    I just request you all in general to please think before you make an allegation because if you don’t… you hurt a lot of ppl along the way. I would hate to feel as if alot of the Americans hold grudges or racial feelings within themselves towards a certain religion. It makes me as a person feel uncomfortable and self-conscious of my beliefs. Please be considerate of other religions and beliefs. Thank u!

  • http://www.asadspace.tk Asad

    Congrats to singer for converting to Islam, this is your very right very true decision which will let you enter the heaven.
    May Allah bless you.

  • ozi

    aite , without having any sort of knowledge about other religions, better not spit shit from your mouths, … better shutup! … has anyone EVER read anything about the religion? islam doesnot restrict any person from entering the circle. secondly, think before you speak, you ppl say one more word against the prohet (PBUH), and hav yourself considered dead !

  • John


    You’re ridiculous, and again, I’m not a muslim- I can say what I wish about your prophet. You shouldn’t be on a political blog if you don’t wish to hear criticism. You don’t have to read this or be here if you find the conversation offensive. You can basically take your death threat back as you have no idea who I am. Are you really a muslim or just some shmoe acting like a violent dick head to discredit Islam?

  • http://www.kozoru.com Justin Gardner

    Wow, where to start…

    Listen, everybody needs to just calm down. I don’t know what’s true and what’s not. The post was about a rumor, and as a blogger I reserve the right to post about some things (especially within pop culture) that may or may not be true. Maybe that reflects poorly on me, but that’s just how it is.

    And ozi…you’re so banned it’s not even funny. I’ll parse through some of the other comments to see if there are any other ban-worthy ones.

  • someone

    omG!!!!! i hope u realize noodles and all u other sinners that u are SOO burning in hell…how could u even THINK of talking about our Prophets in such a demeaning and insulting manner!!!! u seem like you’ve read up a lot, however, you don’t understand anything! adultery is a sin…therefore it is just for an adulteress to be stoned to death…she sins, she gets punished…there’s not much more to it. gayness is haram…it’s a choice and not a biological or inherited issue…true, there are homosexual muslims…however, they are misguided and they will be punished for their sins…if only they understood that the worst fires of Hell are reserved for them! and…another thing for ur ignorant highness to ponder upon…Aisha married Prophet Muhammad(s) when she was 13 years old!!! not 4!! and the marriage was consummated later. don’t talk about things you have no knowledge of…”better to keep shut and let people wonder if you’re an idiot rather than opening your mouth and removing all doubt”…

  • http://www.hatsofmeat.com Noodles

    I like how we must shut our mouthes and never call in to question any acts or teachings of Mohammad nor principles of Islam. We can never think for ourselves or doubt anything said in the Quran, lest we be punished in this life and the next.

    Too bad Mohammad (pbuh) did not get crucified and then ressurected. Maybe he would have let you stick your fingers into his wounds.

  • someone

    u dont need to shut your mouths…some people get really emotional…but if you have no knowledge…then you shouldn’t speak of issues u have no knowledge of.
    get the correct information and then say what you want. but dont go around accusing our Prophets of child molestation and rape or any other sins…A sin is a sin is a sin…no one is exempt from it. our Prophet (S) would never commit a sin…he was the embodiment of Quran…which is a compilation of God’s words…therefore he was the most perfect being…no perfect being can be a sinner. please read up with an open mind so that you may see the truth.
    i believe you were told to shut up because you were spreading rumors and lies. had u been speaking the truth, no muslim would want you to shut up because it would be in our favor. the truth has always been on our side.

  • someone

    and another thing….Islam asks us to question it and to ask questions regarding its rules..Allah has asked us to read about it and to question because only then will we realize how true and peaceful Islam really is.
    Allah is not afraid of anyone questioning it because he knows that once someone reads the true words of the Quran they will have no choice but to accept it and submit to Allah.

  • jamal

    all those who are against islam should just see what reason he gave to accept islam , let me quote again “The singer said he decided to convert to Islam because he is convinced it is the closest religion to his personal beliefs. ” , quran says(not exact words) this is the relegion of human nature . so as brother jackson said that it was nearest to his believes.
    well some of u will still not understand that wrpng action by a small number of people belonging to a particular relegion doesn’t means that relegion is wrong . JUST LEARN ISLAM(QURAN) not just the translation but , most importantly the details of verses also , along with translation .no matters how much u read but what ever u read understand it correctly as well by reading details as well.


  • Emal

    It’s my first time too on this site, but i’ll certainly come back, a pretty interesting thread going on.
    some mature talk and some really stupid nonsense points. and sometimes something unexpectable (john ! after reading ur initial posts, i didnt expect u to write the way u did on 30th Nov :”Sniff, Sniff? why is it that …..” ) .

    anyways, i think one has to mind his language when he talks in public, specially on such a sacred topic – religion. It’s a very sensitive issue and u need to be very careful and fully informed before u say anything about someone else’s faith and beleifs. it’s very irresponsible of a muslim to talk about christians or christianity before studying bible and christian beleifs, and to relate his thoughts to actions of some christians – who may or may not be following bible. The same is for christians, dont start blaming Islam or quran for whatever ur (Nonpracticing) muslim neighbour does. Unfortunately, today some muslims do many things which are striclty forbidden in Islam.

    A request I have from everyone reading, is that dont go into conclusions before making any clarifications. U read a stupid so called muslim saying bad words about christians or bible and u start insulting Quran or Islam, it’s very irresponsible of an educated person. Or Vice Versa .

    A point to ponder , which every open minded ,logical , non muslim must have thought about, or has to think about, is that,

    WHY ?? despite All this voilance, terrorism, extremism etc etc being related to Islam (specially after 9/11 ) , despite all the negative propaganda in Media about Islam and Muslims , and despite all the efforts by those who want to limit the spread of islam , The number of Muslims is growing day by day , specially in Europe and US . more than 100,000 have converted only in US After 9/11 . and by the way, how many wars have been fought for spreading islam in europe and US
    for centuries now. then Why so many well educated, practicing christian, and free people embracing Islam.

    the answer is that they didnt go after nonsense claims and blames, niether they judged Islam by what some mulims do today , rather they studied Quran and Islamic law itself and found out what Islam really is all about. i think there must be something truly admirable which hasnt lost it’s attraction despite all these defamation efforts.
    I think for the best answer one has to stop rumbling around and go and ask any of these new converts. no one’s forced to convert, bcoz Islam doesnt believe in just faith by tongue, rather one must be faithful by heart , and noone can force a belief into ur heart, unless u embrace it. that’s why Quran says “there’s no compulsion in religion, indeed the truth is clear from misguidance, the one who rejected evil and belived in Allah, is successful” . So, If a missionary (http://www.islamtomorrow.com/yusuf.asp), after 50 yrs of preaching christianity, embraces islam , he must have a very good
    reason for doing so , bcoz i’m sure he knew much more about Christianity than any of the writers on this thread here.

    About Prophet Mohammad’s marriages, he didnt marry for lust or sex, one can study the history and the tribal system of that time, the women he married were all widows (except aisha) but were from
    the nobility of different tribes. the Prophet married them in order to have good relations with different arab tribes (necessary for common muslims at that time ). About Aisha , the desert environment is very different, there people get sexually mature at a very young age. even at present, I have seen a 13 yr old girl holding her baby. now dont compare this with ur american environment and way of life.

    to cut it short , I think before making any assumptions on ur own , I invite u all to study the Quran with a clear mind and open heart. I’m sure you won’t be dissappointed.

    Thank u !!

  • Faizan

    noodles i’m really sorry 4 u. Its too easy to type in obscene language, anyone can do that but we think b4 we type.All ur saying just reflects ur religion and goes agianst u so do good to urself and ur religion by being responsible.

  • http://www.hatsofmeat.com Noodles

    I respect your comments Emal, you seem to be a righteous fellow. Forgive me if my comments seem brash, but this is a blog afterall, where people anonymously spout off with sarcasm and dark humor because it is fun.

    I do not hate Muslims. I lived in South India for more than a year, where there are many Muslims I love dearly. Islam as a global religion has potential to be a 100% positive force only if those who interpret the Quran as an instruction booklet change there ways and reject the negative things that Mohammad preached (like modern Jews reject the negative things Moses and Elijah preached).

    Denying that these verses exist, or denying that Mohammad is responsible for terrible atrocites (like the Quraiza massacre 627A.D) does not help stop terrorism. This is the biggest complaint I have about moderate muslims like you. You are a rightious man: you do not consider women a degree below you, you truly have Jew and Christian freinds, and you reject waging war to conquer land and subjugate non-believers. However; you consistantly deny that these beliefs and practices were advocated by Mohammad in the 7th century and are written in the Quran, though you don’t follow them.

    Other Muslims would consider you an apostate because you do not literally interpret everything in the Quran for this modern age (because the Quran is perfect for any era), and that you do not practice sharia law, exactly as it has been written for centuries. These other Muslims may want to kill you because apostacy is punishable by death. These people are not a insignficant minority. They are many and their number is growing too. Even if just 5% of all muslims in the world subscribe to a traditionalist belief in Jihad (the war-of-conquest type of Jihad, not the “inner struggle” type) that is still 50 to 60 million people. More than twice the population of Iraq.

  • http://www.donklephant.com peace!!!

    ok then! afta reeding all this the main person i wanna reply 2 is john! u cant judge ISLAM RULES coz 1stly its common sense 2 see that if ISLAM RULES werent a muslim, why wud they put their name as ISLAM RULES! thats jus logic! 2ndly, afta wat u hav been sayin muslims and islam, u hav no rite sayin wat u r seeing as ur not a jew or a christian ur probably an athiest!
    and IF u r 1, then u hav no room 2 tlk out of every1! ISLAM RULES is allowed to xpress his/her opinions the same way everybody else has on this website including urself! howeva, as a MUSLIM, im am seriuosly disgusted about the comments on our holy prophet (PBUH), the most perfect human being ever to walk on this earth! how dare u ppl judge him in such a disgraceful way? PLZ, if u havent studied our religion dont criticise it, coz u r jus dissin urself down!

  • http://www.hatsofmeat.com Noodles

    what is all this taqiyya? The same guy is making the same spelling errors in all these posts with different names.

    I love the whole “i agree with ISLAM RULES” crap. Stop playing with yourself.

  • http://www.kozoru.com Justin Gardner

    Alright, executive decision time.

    This post got visited by a professional troll. a certain commenter on here who has been well documented as a spoofer. OneWhoBelieves is actually a guy by the name of Bill White, who made this comment in regards to his exploits over at another site:

    Honestly there at least two organized groups of Bill White haters who spam Indymedia whenever my posts appear there — both at dc indymedia and the national.

    If anyone wants to go there and start commenting on articles and pissing the left-anarchists off, I would find that as hilarious as the folk i know doing it now. Often i find myself attacking myself from one IP address, defending myself from another, and then watching the dopes try to take sides and taking all my manifestations seriously.

    I only do it when I’m very bored at work, of cours, though.


    Jeezus, there’s even a wikipedia entry on this guy! Apparently he’s a neo-Nazi? Ha!

    Was it worth it Bill?


    By the way, I’ve done some digging and most of the commenters and Islam defenders are the same person. Actually two people. One from Amsterdam and the other from Milton, Australia. Oh, you know who you are…

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, commenting is a privilege here. Don’t abuse it or I’ll track your IP and report it to your ISP. It’s not worth being a troll on Donklephant. Trust me.

  • http://www.irf.net Bilal Khan

    to “Noodles”

    i am really very glad to have you in india …… i just wanna tell you that
    if you got a chance then attend any seminar of “DR. ZAKIR NAIK”
    insALLAH you will be convinced….. i wil not say anything about your bad words ……. coz its just misunderstanding .. let me tell you one thing tht there are always two ways …
    you think that Mohamad (PBUH) didnt do the right thing by marring Hazrat Ayesha(RA)…
    but i think that Muhamad(PBUH) tells us that you can marry a young girl as well as an older woman (Hazarat Hadeja(RA)who was 40 at the time of marriage)…
    and answer to you main point that ayesha (RA) was too young at tht time…”DR ZAKIR NAIK IS A WITNESS OF SUCH A GIRL WHO WAS JUST FINE FOR MARRIAGE and SHE WAS JUST 9″
    and i also have a girl in our nabours she is only 8 and looks like a grown lady….
    but its my belief that Prophets cant commit a sin…..there acts are ordered by Allah….they didnt done anything by themselves…
    in the end its up to you if you dont want to be convinced then you are not able to get the truth….”please try to find the truth before it gets you”….

  • Emal

    Thanx for respecting my comments noodles! but I really wonder How in the world , u can say SUCH insulting words (even being anonymous) about a person who is So dearly loved by so many of ur dear friends. I suspect ur honesty towards ur friends.

    Anyways , let me tell u that my comments reflect what really is Quran and Islam all about , and i’d emphasise on this, My thoughts reflect what THE WHOLE Quran is all about, not parts of it.

    If u think i’m a good person, or u think my beleifs are nearer to what U think is suitable for the whole world, it’s only bcoz we both believe in the basic human values and ethics propagated by every major religion in the world, and that is what Islam is and has been teaching all the time.

    There’s a basic problem , not only with u but with the majority of western thinkers, U compare Quran and Hadith with any other man made literary work or ligislation, and start pinpointing what seems inapropriate according to ur own difinition of what is right and what is wrong. Quran has to be seen from another angle, It’s not (and couldn’t be) authored by Prophet Mohammad.it’s a divine revelation.U cant tailor and modify it according to ur own wishes and preferences. It’s not something U take some and leave some , infact the ones doing so can’t be called complete muslims , this is hypocricy – chosing only what serves ur personal interests.

    One basic understanding (absent in people like u) is that Quran is The word of God. which can be proved by many many reasons. So if we think something is inappropriate in Quran or Sharia , the problem is not there, the problem is with our own understanding of it. Don’t u wonder Why – after so many centuries- not a single word in Quran could be altered – though many have tried. The reason is that God wanted so. When we say the word of God, it means the ultimate guidance , He knows His creatures and what is good for them much much better than we humans do. and when God says it’s a guidance for all times , we have no doubt about it. We can’t tailor God’s word according to our conditions, we have to tailor ourselves according to it. About Prophet Mohammad’s teachings, he didnt teach from his heart , whatever he preached and tought was also from God, bcoz before prophethood he was totally illeterate, how could he gain so much knowledge if it wasnt from God.

    U know, the reason for islamic laws’ very existince is its intactness, for if people start manipulating it according to their own priorities, we’ll witness what already has happened with christianity and judaism – Every Saint and Pope amending and adding his own wishes and today u have multiple versions of Bible and can never prove the current bible to be the one present at jesus’s time .

    Another point u have to keep in mind is that never judge history by a single opinion. always try to find out about the whole context in which a certain event took place.for instance, Indian freedom fighters who fought against the British, were, and are ,heroes for Indians, but they were not more than rebellious criminals to the British. How can a person – who (at the peak of his power) forgave those people who had stoned him to the extent that his footwear were filled with blood – can order a MASSACRE ?!! .

    We Muslims beleive that Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all devine religions and their respective prophets were sent by God (Allah, Aloha) for preaching His revelations and guidance to mankind. The difference between Islam and other religions is that they were meant for a specific period of time bcoz another prophet was supposed to come after each of them, that’s why (unlike Quran) God didnt take the responsibilty of preserving them (and u have so many versions … ) but it’s not the case with Islam, Prophet Muhammad was the last messenger with the final word of God, The Quran.

    By the way , do try to answer the question I have posed with a Big WHY? in the previous post.
    Finally, I have to emphasize once again , What everyone needs to do is dont judge a religion only by some of its followers, delve deep into its teachings and read its history in the whole context of events. I’m sure you’ll understand Why is Islam THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION in the world.

    thnk u !

  • OneWhoBelieves

    wHAT!!! I am a guy named Bill White… this is hilarious! Is this a joke? I am a little speechless at Justin Gardner’s comments or maybe I misunderstood him. But first off, I am a girl… my name doesn’t even ryhme with Bill White… and I look nothing like the dude. Obviously there’s a mistake and ur confusing the two. I am here sitting in Brooklyn, NY with my hubby and 18 mth old son… and u guys… I am harmless :)

    Anyway… back to the debating…

  • OneWhoBelieves


    Can you plz tell me what preachings of the Prophet (pbuh) you are talking abt that are wrong and should be rejected therefore? Also what verses of the Qur’an support these acts?

    Secondly, what atrocities were caused by the Prophet (pbuh) beside the one u mentioned already?


  • http://www.kozoru.com Justin Gardner

    OneWhoBelieves, either you spoofed your IP address the first time or you’re being duped, one of the two. Trust me, I didn’t just come up with that information out of thin air.

    Now, I am more than willing to except that it was a glitch, but the guy I cited is a known troll and it’s pretty odd that the first comment you left had his SPECIFIC IP addy, but the last two had a different one.

    All I’m saying is tread lightly…

  • Emal

    Well, noodles , I wonder how in the world , you can use SUCH insulting words (even being anonymous) for a person who is So Dearly loved by so many of ur friends. I suspect ur honesty towards ur friends.

    Anyways , I had posted a detailed reply to ur comments about my post, but I dont know why Justin didnt wanna let them be here . To sum all that up, I wanna say that : I’m not ( as u have suggested) the one who believes in some parts of the Quran and rejects some other parts. That’s hypocricy . and I’m a full Muslim. And I Do beleive that Quran is the final and absolute Guidance for Mankind. Absolutely applicable in any era. If u think there’s any problem in Quran or Prophet Mohammad’s teachings, the problem is infact with ur understanding.
    And furthermore , Do not jugde history by a single opinion. try to find out about the whole context of events. How can a person – who (at the peak of his power) forgave those who had stoned him to the extent that his fotwear was filled with blood – can allow a massacre ??!!

    I’ll emphasize again , DO NOT mix up what some Muslims do today with what Islam teaches.

    thnx !

  • OneWhoBelieves

    Thread lightly??? this is my 3rd time visiting this site and my 4th post all together. I dunno where ur getting ur info from, and its funny u targetted me outta all the other ppl that posted… I feel so loved!
    In any case, my first post was just to clear up some of the confusion a few ppl had on this board… I pray that God guides us all to the straight path. Peace… and since I was welcomed so wonderfully, I prolly won’t be back… Thanx for the warm wishes!

  • http://www.kozoru.com Justin Gardner

    OneWhoBelieves, I already told you why you need to “tread lightly.”

    On your first post, your IP address pointed directly to Bill White’s house. I don’t know how that could have happened, and there’s nothing too hard to understand here. I’ve already banned that first IP addy and I have my doubts about you really being who you say you are, but I haven’t banned your new IP address yet.

    All I’m saying is that if it’s your intention to seriously comment on here, then fine, we’ll have no problems. But if you start turning into a troll, you’re gone in a heartbeat.

  • diego

    noodles, r u gay? do u like ur arse rimmed?u sound like a big hairy dickhead.

  • http://www.kozoru.com Justin Gardner

    bye, bye diego

  • diego

    what do u mean justin gardner?

  • david garcia

    good for michael jackson if he’s converted to true islam.for it is the only true religion of god.

    criteria for truth,
    how do we know that a revelation like the qur’an is the word of god?
    the criteria for the truth can be easily understood by all.

    since god bestowed reason and intellect on mankind, it is our duty to use it to distinguish truth from falsehood.true undistorted revelation from god must be rational and can be reasoned out by all unbiased minds.

    since god is all perfect, this revelation must be perfect and accurate, free from mistakes, omissions, interpolation and multiplicity of versions.it should be free from contradictions in its narration.

    true revelation from god is free from myth or superstitions that degrade the dignity of god or man.

    since god is the creator of all knowledge, true revelation is scientific and can withstand the science all times.

    god is the knower of the past, present and future.this his word of prophecies in his revelation will be fulfilled as prophesied.

    true revelation from god is infallible and cannot be imitated by man.god’s true revelation is a living miracle, an open book challenging all mankind to see and prove for themselves.



  • sarah roberts

    Thanks david,the six points are excellent, i am reading A BRIEF ILLUSTRATED GUIDE TO UNDERSTANDING ISLAM.I have so far read THE Quran on Human Embryonic Development,Mountains,The Origin of the Universe,The Cerebrum,Seas and Rivers,Deep seas and Internal Waves,The Clouds.Modern Science has discovered the facts only recently.1400 yrs ago this was already known in the quran,Also the Quran talks about the past,the present and future.Another fact was that the prophet of islam was illiterate.Surely the quran must be the word of God.I am convinced, am thinking about following the religion of islam.I’ve got lots of muslim friends they told me good things about islam,I’ve been looking into islam for the past year or so. I Think it’s the right religion for me.

  • Emal

    Congratulation Sarah on your right decision. You are totally on the right path and inshaallah will soon have no other choice but to surrender to the absolute truth, The ultimate path towards success in this world and the hereafter.
    one thing more . there’s a saying of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) “Don’t choose for your brother what you don’t choose for yourself” . this is of course not only for men, it’s a general rule. what i mean to say is that , when you have found the truth , don’t limit it to yourself, rather guide your friends and family too towards it. there are very little people stubborn enough to know about Islam’s teachings and still reject it. the majority (specially in the west) either are totally unaware or misguided about what Islam is All about.

    wish u good luck .

    by the way , i was looking for something from noodles. hope he finds a reasonable reply to my second last post .

    thank u all .

  • fatima

    May Allah bless u Sarah!
    What i Dont get is that why do people start insulting other religions without getting their facts straight. and even if they r straight no religion should b insulted. One thing that most non-muslims wonder about is that why the Prophet Muhammad had 13 wives, though not all at the same time (NOT 25 pleasseeeeeee!) while Islam only allows 4. this is because in those days it was normal to have may wives and the Prophet followed this tradition and married so many times. But when the commandment came from Allah restricting the number of wives to 4 he stopped marrying! So u see! And as for the misconceptions about Jihad I dont understand just because some morons go around killing people saying thet it is Jihad everyone labels Islam as a terrorist religion. How do they know that these people are telling the truth. Let me highlight a few points about Jihad”:
    1.95% of Jihad is your personel struggle against your own evil desires.
    2. 5% of Jihad is physical fighting.
    3. In Jihad u only fight with those who fight with u. u stop fighting as soon as hostilities cease.
    4. u dont touch women children old people or anyone who is not fighting with u that is civilians.
    5.You dont attack priests or those engaged in worship.
    6. You dont destroy crops and animals and trees.
    7. You never forcibly convert people.
    8.You dont destroy places o worship.
    9. There is complete freedom of prctising any religion in the conquered territories.

    S i suggest that people get their FACTS straight before assuming that everything that Al Queda does is Islamic. They are terrorists anf=d brought to justice under the Islamic law they would all be executed.

  • fatima

    I didnt recheck what I wrote I am sorry there are typing errors

  • http://www.kozoru.com Justin Gardner

    No worries fatima about the spelling errors.

    However, concerning this idea that religions shouldn’t be insulted…for what reason? Incredibly horrible acts have been done in the name of the church/religion/etc….and so I think you should accept the fact that there are those who would most certainly ridicule and question the establishment of the church, regardless of the what faith it represents.

    And, of course, Islam is no different, and the story of Aisha brings the entire faith into question in my humble opinion. How can you justify Mohammed having sex with a nine year old? Even for back then, this had to be considered ridiculously young.

    What say you?

  • Unknown

    this comment is towards Noodel’s comment fist of all how dare u say something like that about our prophet (p.u.h) that is uncalled for seeing how u know nothing about islam..well anyways wat i am trying to get at is GO TO HELL U BASTARD!

  • fatima

    ok Gardener u are right about insulting religions. what i actually meant was that religions shouldn’t be insulted without proper knowledge of what they preach. the whole religion isn’t to be blamed for the doings of some people. and about the having sex with nine year old. look at it in this way: in the time when the Prophet was born it was ok to marry your daughters, sleep with your sisters, have sex with stepmomz, loose your families in gambling rape kids etc. Look no one is born knowing what is right and wrong. Society or someone has to tell that person. At that time it was ok to bed with young people(with or without marraige). The prophet was a human after all. Allah hadn’t told him much about marraige than. So he went in with the flow and just did what others were doing. In fact he did better, he married her and than had sex. Afterwards rebealations about marraige came and stuff. thatz the way I see it. But I am not very religious in the sense I only that which i studied in school and have heard from other Muslims. proper religious teachers like Dr.Zakir Naik will probably be able to answer your querries better. Maybe you should lookup some of his sites and mail him or somthing.
    This is to ENEMY OF JEWS
    look bud Islam doesnt stand for hating anyone. It is a religion of peace mercy and love. We are supposed to be kind to everyone, Muslims or non-Muslims. Nicks like “Enemy of Jews Kaafir etc” arent very rational especially if you are trying to tell people that Islam is a perfect religion. i am not saying u cant have opinions, itz natural to hate , love like, dislike etc but announcing your emotions like that isnt very clever when u are telling others about Islam. You r just like Noodles…..well almost, at least u r not abusing prophets, but still. Our prophet said that whenever u go somwhere to preach Islam u should b welcomed and conduct yourself in a way that is friendly and inviting…..I cant remember the exact words of the hadis but the essence was this

  • http://www.kozoru.com Justin Gardner

    And futhermore…all remaining commenters are banned who say inflammatory things. Commenting here is a privilege, not a right.

    Please respect this on our blog.

  • Muhammad Asad

    First of all: God is one and Muhammad (PBUH) his last prophet.

    Thanks to my Allah for Michael Jackson to vonvert to Islam …..

    and now i am very happy and i am also like him …. but now i more love for Michael….

    I Love You Michael………….. we are all Muslim with you and congrulation

  • Bilal Khan

    1st of all Allah bless you Sarah for choosing the right path…..you willl feel the comfort of you life INSHALLAH…..

    @Justin……..you are keep on repeating the same question again and again and again ……. i mean i have ansewered the same question above and couple of my friends too but i think you dont want to be convinced….in the end i just want to say that “go out and look around you”.. you will get the answer ……


    nice thinkin bro…..

  • http://www.donklephant.com Justin Gardner

    Bilal Khan, I think you’re talking about Noodles. I didn’t ask any questions in this thread. I made a few statements, and only talked about Aisha once. I don’t know which comments you’re referencing, because I didn’t go back and read all of the comments.

    But let me just make it clear, whether she was 6 or 9 doesn’t matter to me. That’s ridiculously young. Now, there are theories that she was 14-16 when she got married, but most of Islam has settled on the idea that she was 6 when she got married to Mohammed.

    And yes, when you tell the regular person on the street about Mohammed’s last wife being 6 when they were married and 9 when they consumated it, that gets some notice, even if that was “common” practice back then. And just because people did it, doesn’t make it right. Remember, that’s why those laws changed…because children needed to be protected.

    And come on people, a girl of 9 is not going to have the mental capacity to handle marriage. It’s more a means of survival. And for me, it certainly calls Mohammed’s credibility as a prophet, as well as his judgement, into serious question.

  • Amira

    Good afternoon
    If some of you don’t believe this news about Michael Jackson converted to Islam, What would you say about his new song: “Give thanks to Allah”.
    Which you can listen to and read its lyrics from this link:_


    And its lyrics from this link too:_


  • sherif ahmed

    first…why all of you are making fun of muhamed peace be upon him and all of muslims never say a word about christans&jewesh people all of muslims love jesus and mosa peace upon them and don’t look to islam about murdring and killing and ask ur self that who is killed every day us or urs on palestine and iraq every day more than 5 muslims are killed and if we response about there killing by killing one you named us by murderers how come, islam is calling for forgiveness not killing know that and about michael jackson i ask god to guide him to the right way and to all of you

  • sherif ahmed

    why all of you are making fun of muhamed peace be upon him and all of muslims never say a word about christans&jewesh people all of muslims love jesus and mosa peace upon them and don’t look to islam about murdring and killing and ask ur self that who is killed every day us or urs on palestine and iraq every day more than 5 muslims are killed and if we response about there killing by killing one you named us by murderers how come, islam is calling for forgiveness not killing know that and about michael jackson i ask god to guide him to the right way and to all of you

  • Brian in MA

    So Michael Jackson is now going to pretend-play his female victims, err, child playfriends, into burkas. Look Wacko-Jacko, if the kind of “freedom” you want is to manipulate young children, dress them up, and molest them, Islamic law isn’t going to help you any more than American law does. No civilized country supports the kind of freedom you want.

    Btw. this is just another one of Hollywood’s great pretenders, like the Kabballah craze and Madonna a while back. It subverts the true purpose of the religion by popularizing it and ignoring its tenets. There is nothing that could be worse for Islam then letting a stooge like Michael Jackson be a representative.

  • david garcia khan

    amira its not michael jackson,this song is written by zain bhikha and sang by him.as of this time i still have not herd the statement from micheal jackson himself stating that he is a true muslim.if michael jackson is a true muslim he should do a press release.michael’s brother jamine is a muslim for sure.

  • khan


  • Amira

    Thank you for your add (david garcia khan).

    I became sure that this song is (zain bhikha’s song), but what is that written in those websites which i put them?
    They say there that this song is (Michael Jackson ‘ song)!!!

    I’m really confused now!!

  • iris

    i really respect wt u said..’sherif ahmed’ when muslims defend their country then they call them terrorists! they kill in iraq and palestine, & they dont want them to fight back!!!! that is “unfair”

  • david garcia khan

    sis amira go to http://www.the naseedshop.com.you will see zain bhikha’s name click and play the samples.than you will know for sure its zain bhikha’s voice.

  • Sarah

    OK islam is the best religion ever and all of you will realise that on the day of judgement…you are really small minded if u think that islamic ppl r doin these attacks…ITS U GUYZ hu r doin these attacks!!! I really praise Michael 4 doin this…He will NEVER regret it

  • Abdullah


    Praise be to Allaah Who has guided him to Islam. We ask Allaah to make him steadfast and to guide him to that which is good for him in this world and in the Hereafter.


    By His grace and mercy, Allaah has caused Islam to destroy the sins that came before it. When a kaafir becomes Muslim, Allaah forgives all that he did when he was a kaafir, and he becomes cleansed of sin.

    Muslim (121) narrated that ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: When Allaah put Islam in my heart, I came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said: “Give me your right hand so that I may swear allegiance to you.� He held out his hand and I withdrew my hand. He said, “What is the matter, O ‘Amr?� I said, “I want to stipulate a condition.� He said, “What do you want to stipulate?� I said, “That I will be forgiven.� He said, “Do you not know that Islam destroys that which came before it?�

    “Islam destroys that which came before it� means that it erases it and wipes it out. Stated by al-Nawawi in Sharh Muslim.

    Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked a similar question, about someone who earned money by dealing in drugs before he became Muslim. He replied:

    We say to this brother whom Allaah has blessed with Islam after he had earned haraam wealth: be of good cheer, for this wealth is permissible for him and there is no sin on him in it, whether he keeps it or gives it in charity, or uses it to get married, because Allaah says in His Holy Book (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief), their past will be forgiven. But if they return (thereto), then the examples of those (punished) before them have already preceded (as a warning)�

    I respect all religions …… and i wish that all of you guys will do the same

  • mongo bongo

    well said abdullah the slave of allah’swt.

  • http://www.equetta.com Talha Ejaz

    The comment made by Noodles on November 26th, 2005 at 12:51 pm
    is a baseless one and mostly one of the very reasons that convinced Michael Jackson to accept Islam, because people in the west are unaware of the teachings of Islam and Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H)…The most convincing thing about Islam and its followers is that we respect all the prophets unlike Jews or Christians and its part of our faith to accept them as prophets sent upon the face of Earth by Almighty Allah (God)…I would like to request all the people present on this forum that Prophets are sent by Almighty Allah so they all must be respected…Muslims are the most peace loving people…Islam is the true religion, if you don’t believe me then think for yourself that how many Muslim have ever become Christian, Hindu or a Buddhist.

  • goomoot

    noodles dont care about anything he’s gay.he likes men.


    This is message being sent to thousands of sites by a robot.

    Have you asked the liberated women and children in IRAQ and Afghanistan
    some of whom have been blown straight to the next kingdom how they view there situation i suppose its ok its only collateral damage.
    How would you like sanctions on USA that kills millions of children then someone comes to liberate you from your despotic regime kills 100’s thousands of people and says we dont do nation building or body counts.

    The way of Christ does not need Nuclear Weapons to destroy its enemies. Reason and logic are the ultimate weapons and no amount of WMD’s possessed by Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Israel and the USA can touch it. If you think that having nuclear weapons will save you then you must belong to the camp of the anti-christ, just search your soul for the answer.

    PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING PASSAGES FROM THE BIBLE AS IT HAS IMPLICATIONS ON THE WAR AGAINST TERROR/ISLAM and the claim of Israel that god gave them the land. If the child is an infant than the Judeo-Christian version becomes null and void and we are wasting our time and resources i.e. we could save trillions of dollars and create a more peaceful world rather than fighting against Islam the religion of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all).

    The COVENANT with Abraham and his DESCENDANTS is central to islam/chritianity/judaism.

    Please note this is not a competition between faiths but an attempt to decipher fact from fiction.

    GENESIS 16:16
    And Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram called the name of his son, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael. Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to Abram.
    GENESIS 21:5
    Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him.

    At Genesis 22 Abraham had only 2 sons others came later. The Quran mentions that it was Ishmael that was sacrificed hence the reference in genesis 22:2 your only son can only mean someone has substituted Ishmael names for Isaac!!

    NOT ROMAN NUMERALS (I, II, III,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,IX,X) NB no concept of zero in roman numerals.

    100 years old – 86 years old = 14 ADD 3 YEARS FOR ISSAC’S WEANING


    Carefully read several times the above passage and then tell me the mental picture you get between the mother child interactions what is the age of the child. If the mental picture is that of a 17 year old child being carried on the shoulder of his mother, being physically placed in the bush, crying like a baby, mother having to give him water to drink, than the Islamic viewpoint is null and void.

    I have shown the passage of Genesis 21 to my two elder children of good reading ages now and without influencing them asked them what mental picture they got about the age of Ishmael in that passage and they thought he was about 5 years old. I have also tried the same thing with my work colleagues some of whom are qualified with PhD’s and have the ENGLISH language as their mother tongue and they also said they thought Ishmael was 5 years or younger because some of them stated by themselves that there was no verbal interaction between mother and child. i.e. If Ishmael is not of talking age then he must be less than a year old.

    GENESIS:21:14 – 21
    So Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread and a skin of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, along with the child, and sent her away. And she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-Sheba. When the water in the skin was gone, she cast the child under one of the bushes. Then she went, and sat down over against him a good way off, about the distance of a bowshot; for she said, “Let me not look upon the death of the child.� And as she sat over against him, the child lifted up his voice and wept. And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven, and said to her, “What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not; for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is. Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him fast with your hand; for I will make him a great nation.� Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the skin with water, and gave the lad a drink. And God was with the lad, and he grew up; he lived in the wilderness, and became an expert with the bow. He lived in the wilderness of Paran; and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.


    For background info on the future religion of mankind see the following websites:

    http://www.al-sunnah.com/muhammad_in_the_bible.htm (MUHAMMAD IN THE BIBLE)
    http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/MB_BQS/default.htm (Quran and Science)

    HOLY QURAN CHAPTER 37 verses 101 – 122

    101. So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear.

    102. Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: “O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice: Now see what is thy view!” (The son) said: “O my father! Do as thou art commanded: thou will find me, if Allah so wills one practising Patience and Constancy!”

    103. So when they had both submitted their wills (to Allah., and he had laid him prostrate on his forehead (for sacrifice),

    104. We called out to him “O Abraham!

    105. “Thou hast already fulfilled the vision!” – thus indeed do We reward those who do right.

    106. For this was obviously a trial-

    107. And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice:

    108. And We left (this blessing) for him among generations (to come) in later times:

    109. “Peace and salutation to Abraham!”

    110. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.

    111. For he was one of our believing Servants.

    112. And We gave him the good news of Isaac – a prophet,- one of the Righteous.

    113. We blessed him and Isaac: but of their progeny are (some) that do right, and (some) that obviously do wrong, to their own souls.

    114. Again (of old) We bestowed Our favour on Moses and Aaron,

    115. And We delivered them and their people from (their) Great Calamity;

    116. And We helped them, so they overcame (their troubles);

    117. And We gave them the Book which helps to make things clear;

    118. And We guided them to the Straight Way.

    119. And We left (this blessing) for them among generations (to come) in later times:

    120. “Peace and salutation to Moses and Aaron!”

    121. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.

    122. For they were two of our believing Servants.


    Therefore the claim that god gave the land to Israel is destroyed without the need of any WMD’s.

    Amazing so Hagar in Genesis 21:14 – 21 was carrying a 17 year old retard on her one shoulder for maybe 10 – 100 miles (Mrs. Swarzniggar) who later grew up to become an archer, married into an Arab tribe and learned Arabic and went onto have several children. One of the descendants of this retard with his genetic defects passed on his bad DNA to Muhammad the illiterate whose religion is now violently spreading by the sword and soon to overtake the whole planet.
    How could this happen like you I am also confused.

    The oil found in recent history belongs to the west, its unfortunate it is under lands inhabited by Muslims and not only Arabs. Having oil and economic success then to die and go to hell is not my idea of a great nation.

    By the way SCREW BIN LADEN, AL-QAEDA, SADDAM HUSSAIN and who is this Zackarwee all trained by that humanitarian organization called the CIA.

    A brief lesson on Islam.

    It is the oldest faith on the planet it starts of with Adam and Eve, and continuous through revelations given to Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus (many others too numerous to mention) until its completion under the messenger ship of Muhammad (pbuta). Islam is not an exclusively an Arab faith as there is no scriptural evidence that Muhammad (pbuh) said that he is the founder of Islam. One cannot quote the Quran as it is not the work of Muhammad as he could not read or write in any language including Arabic. Just as Jesus has himself not ever said that he is the founder of Christianity or Moses has not stated that he is the founder of Judaism.

    ISIAH 29 verse 12 “And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned”.

    Below are verses from the Quran, where GOD/SATAN himself says that the scriptures were changed by the scribes.

    Quran Chapter 2 verse 75

    75. Can ye (o ye men of Faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- Seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it.

    Quran Chapter 2 verse 79

    79. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:”This is from Allah,” to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.

    Quran Chapter 4 verse 46

    46. Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) places, and say: “We hear and we disobey”; and “Hear what is not Heard”; and “Ra’ina”; with a twist of their tongues and a slander to Faith. If only they had said: “What hear and we obey”; and “Do hear”; and “Do look at us”; it would have been better for them, and more proper; but Allah hath cursed them for their Unbelief; and but few of them will believe.

    I suppose SATAN said the following about the Israel.

    Quran Chapter 2 verse 40 – 83

    40. O Children of Israel! call to mind the (special) favour which I bestowed upon you, and fulfil your covenant with Me as I fulfil My Covenant with you, and fear none but Me.
    41. And believe in what I reveal, confirming the revelation which is with you, and be not the first to reject Faith therein, nor sell My Signs for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone.
    42. And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is).
    43. And be steadfast in prayer; practise regular charity; and bow down your heads with those who bow down (in worship).
    44. Do ye enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget (To practise it) yourselves, and yet ye study the Scripture? Will ye not understand?
    45. Nay, seek ((Allah)’s) help with patient perseverance and prayer: It is indeed hard, except to those who bring a lowly spirit,-
    46. Who bear in mind the certainty that they are to meet their Lord, and that they are to return to Him.
    47. Children of Israel! call to mind the (special) favour which I bestowed upon you, and that I preferred you to all other (for My Message).
    48. Then guard yourselves against a day when one soul shall not avail another nor shall intercession be accepted for her, nor shall compensation be taken from her, nor shall anyone be helped (from outside).
    49. And remember, We delivered you from the people of Pharaoh: They set you hard tasks and punishments, slaughtered your sons and let your women-folk live; therein was a tremendous trial from your Lord.
    50. And remember We divided the sea for you and saved you and drowned Pharaoh’s people within your very sight.
    51. And remember We appointed forty nights for Moses, and in his absence ye took the calf (for worship), and ye did grievous wrong.
    52. Even then We did forgive you; there was a chance for you to be grateful.
    53. And remember We gave Moses the Scripture and the Criterion (Between right and wrong): There was a chance for you to be guided aright.
    54. And remember Moses said to his people: “O my people! Ye have indeed wronged yourselves by your worship of the calf: So turn (in repentance) to your Maker, and slay yourselves (the wrong-doers); that will be better for you in the sight of your Maker.” Then He turned towards you (in forgiveness): For He is Oft- Returning, Most Merciful.
    55. And remember ye said: “O Moses! We shall never believe in thee until we see Allah manifestly,” but ye were dazed with thunder and lighting even as ye looked on.
    56. Then We raised you up after your death: Ye had the chance to be grateful.
    57. And We gave you the shade of clouds and sent down to you Manna and quails, saying: “Eat of the good things We have provided for you:” (But they rebelled); to us they did no harm, but they harmed their own souls.
    58. And remember We said: “Enter this town, and eat of the plenty therein as ye wish; but enter the gate with humility, in posture and in words, and We shall forgive you your faults and increase (the portion of) those who do good.”
    59. But the transgressors changed the word from that which had been given them; so We sent on the transgressors a plague from heaven, for that they infringed (Our command) repeatedly.
    60. And remember Moses prayed for water for his people; We said: “Strike the rock with thy staff.” Then gushed forth therefrom twelve springs. Each group knew its own place for water. So eat and drink of the sustenance provided by Allah, and do no evil nor mischief on the (face of the) earth.
    61. And remember ye said: “O Moses! we cannot endure one kind of food (always); so beseech thy Lord for us to produce for us of what the earth groweth, -its pot-herbs, and cucumbers, Its garlic, lentils, and onions.” He said: “Will ye exchange the better for the worse? Go ye down to any town, and ye shall find what ye want!” They were covered with humiliation and misery; they drew on themselves the wrath of Allah. This because they went on rejecting the Signs of Allah and slaying His Messengers without just cause. This because they rebelled and went on transgressing.
    62. Those who believe (in the Qur’an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
    63. And remember We took your covenant and We raised above you (The towering height) of Mount (Sinai) : (Saying): “Hold firmly to what We have given you and bring (ever) to remembrance what is therein: Perchance ye may fear Allah.”
    64. But ye turned back thereafter: Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allah to you, ye had surely been among the lost.
    65. And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: “Be ye apes, despised and rejected.”
    66. So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah.
    67. And remember Moses said to his people: “(Allah) commands that ye sacrifice a heifer.” They said: “Makest thou a laughing-stock of us?” He said: “(Allah) save me from being an ignorant (fool)!”
    68. They said: “Beseech on our behalf Thy Lord to make plain to us what (heifer) it is!” He said; “He says: The heifer should be neither too old nor too young, but of middling age. Now do what ye are commanded!”
    69. They said: “Beseech on our behalf Thy Lord to make plain to us Her colour.” He said: “He says: A fawn-coloured heifer, pure and rich in tone, the admiration of beholders!”
    70. They said: “Beseech on our behalf Thy Lord to make plain to us what she is: To us are all heifers alike: We wish indeed for guidance, if Allah wills.”
    71. He said: “He says: A heifer not trained to till the soil or water the fields; sound and without blemish.” They said: “Now hast thou brought the truth.” Then they offered her in sacrifice, but not with good-will.
    72. Remember ye slew a man and fell into a dispute among yourselves as to the crime: But Allah was to bring forth what ye did hide.
    73. So We said: “Strike the (body) with a piece of the (heifer).” Thus Allah bringeth the dead to life and showeth you His Signs: Perchance ye may understand.
    74. Thenceforth were your hearts hardened: They became like a rock and even worse in hardness. For among rocks there are some from which rivers gush forth; others there are which when split asunder send forth water; and others which sink for fear of Allah. And Allah is not unmindful of what ye do.
    75. Can ye (o ye men of Faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- Seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it.
    76. Behold! when they meet the men of Faith, they say: “We believe”: But when they meet each other in private, they say: “Shall you tell them what Allah hath revealed to you, that they may engage you in argument about it before your Lord?”- Do ye not understand (their aim)?
    77. Know they not that Allah knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal?
    78. And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book, but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture.
    79. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:”This is from Allah,” to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.
    80. And they say: “The Fire shall not touch us but for a few numbered days:” Say: “Have ye taken a promise from Allah, for He never breaks His promise? or is it that ye say of Allah what ye do not know?”
    81. Nay, those who seek gain in evil, and are girt round by their sins,- they are companions of the Fire: Therein shall they abide (For ever).
    82. But those who have faith and work righteousness, they are companions of the Garden: Therein shall they abide (For ever).
    83. And remember We took a covenant from the Children of Israel (to this effect): Worship none but Allah. treat with kindness your parents and kindred, and orphans and those in need; speak fair to the people; be steadfast in prayer; and practise regular charity. Then did ye turn back, except a few among you, and ye backslide (even now).

    Jesus in the Glorious Qur’an

    The Qur’an tells us a lot of wonderful things about Jesus. As a result, believers in the Qur’an love Jesus, honour him, and believe in him. In fact, no Muslim can be a Muslim unless he or she believes in Jesus, on whom be peace.
    The Qur’an says that Jesus was born of a virgin, that he spoke while he was still only a baby, that he healed the blind and the leper by God’s leave, and that he raised the dead by God’s leave.
    What then is the significance of these miracles? First, the virgin birth. God demonstrates his power to create in every way. God created everyone we know from a man and a woman. But how about Adam, on whom be peace? God created him from neither a man nor a woman. And Eve from only a man, but not a woman. And, finally, to complete the picture, God created Jesus from a woman, but not a man.
    What about the other miracles? These were to show that Jesus was not acting on his own behalf, but that he was backed by God. The Qur’an specifies that these miracles were performed by God’s leave. This may be compared to the Book of Acts in the Bible, chapter 2, verse 22, where it says that the miracles were done by God to show that he approved of Jesus. Also, note that Jesus himself is recorded in the Gospel of John to have said, “I can do nothing of my own authority� (5:30). The miracles, therefore, were done not by his own authority, but by God’s authority.
    What did Jesus teach? The Qur’an tells us that Jesus came to teach the same basic message which was taught by previous prophets from God�that we must shun every false god and worship only the one true God. Jesus taught that he is the servant and messenger of that one true God, the God of Abraham. These Quranic teachings can be compared with the Bible ( Mark 10:18; Matthew 26:39; John 14:28, 17:3, and 20:17) where Jesus teaches that the one he worshipped is the only true God. See also Matthew 12:18; Acts 3:13, and 4:27 where we find that his disciples knew him as Servant of God.
    The Qur’an tells us that some of the Israelites rejected Jesus, and conspired to kill him, but Allah (God) rescued Jesus and raised him to Himself. Allah will cause Jesus to descend again, at which time Jesus will confirm his true teachings and everyone will believe in him as he is and as the Qur’an teaches about him.
    Jesus is the Messiah. He is a word from Allah, and a spirit from Him. He is honoured in this world and in the hereafter, and he is one of those brought nearest to Allah.
    Jesus was a man who spoke the truth which he heard from God. This can be compared with the Gospel According to John where Jesus says to the Israelites: “You are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God� (John 8:40).

    The Virgin Birth of Jesus
    Muslims believe in the virgin birth of Jesus. When the angels announced to Mary (peace be upon her) about Allah’s promise that she will have a son, she was surprised, since she was a virgin. “How can this be?� she thought. She was reminded that it is easy for Allah to create whatever he wills.
    She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So (it will be). Allah createth what He will. If He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is (Qur’an 3:47).
    It is not difficult for Allah to do anything he wants. He can create a child with both human parents or only one. No miracle is beyond His power. After all, He had created Adam (peace be upon him) from neither a man nor a woman. He created the rest of us from both man and woman. What is so hard if Allah decides to create a human being from a woman only? He only commands “Be!� and it occurs.
    Some people think that since Jesus, peace be upon him, had no human father then God must be his father. The Qur’an rejects this view. The position of Jesus with Allah is comparable to the position of Adam with Allah. Just because Adam had no human parent does not mean we should call him the Son of God.
    Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is. (Qur’an 3:59).
    According to the Qur’an, everyone except Allah are His servants.
    And they say: the Beneficent hath taken unto Himself a Son. Assuredly ye utter a disastrous thing, whereby almost the heavens are torn, and the earth is split asunder and the mountains fall to ruins, that ye ascribe to the Beneficent a son, when it is not meet for (the Majesty of) the Beneficent that He should chose a son. There is none in the heavens and the earth but cometh unto the Beneficent as a slave. (Qur’an 19:88-93)

    The Miracles of Jesus
    According to the Qur’an, Jesus, on whom be peace, performed the following miracles by Allah’s leave:
    1. Spoke while he was only a baby.
    2. Healed those born blind.
    3. Healed the lepers.
    4. Revived the dead.
    5. Breathed life into a bird made of clay.
    In the Qur’an Allah quotes Jesus, peace be upon him, as saying:
    Lo! I come unto you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathe into it and it is a bird by Allah’s leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah’s leave. And I announce to you what you eat and what you store up in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for you if you are to be believers.
    And (I come) confirming that which was before me of the Torah, and to make lawful some of that which was forbidden unto you. I come unto you with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me. Lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path. (Qur’an 3: 49-51).
    Again, in the Qur’an Allah tells us about the situation on the Day of Judgement:
    In the day when Allah gathers together the messengers and says: What was your response (from mankind)? they say: We have no knowledge. Lo! Thou, only Thou art the Knower of Things Hidden.
    When Allah says: O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember My favour unto you and unto your mother; how I strengthened you with the holy Spirit, so that you spoke unto mankind in the cradle as in maturity; and how I taught you the Scripture and Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and how you did shape of clay as it were the likeness of a bird by My permission, and did blow upon it and it was a bird by My permission, and you did heal him who was born blind and the leper by My permission . . . (Qur’an 5:109-110)
    Not all of these miracles are recorded in the canonical gospels, the four gospels contained in the Christian Bible.
    The fact that Jesus spoke while he was yet a baby is not written anywhere in the Bible. This should not be surprising, because none of the Gospels can claim to recover every single event in the life of Jesus. Instead, the gospel According to John seeks to emphasize that the events were too many to record.
    Similarly, the miracle of breathing life into a bird made of clay is not attested by the Christian Bible. This too should not make us wonder. It is obvious that the writers of the gospels could write down only the tradition that was available to them. Furthermore, they could not write down everything they knew about Jesus for they were writing on papyrus material that were very limited in length.
    What is worthy to notice here is that the Prophet Muhammad, may peace and the blessings of Allah be upon him, was honest enough to promulgate this information about Jesus. The religion taught by God through Muhammad would deny the divinity of Jesus. Any human being, therefore, who wished to deny the divinity of Jesus would have tried to belittle Jesus. Since Christians looked upon the miracles of Jesus as a proof of his divinity, we might expect that any human being who tries to deny the divinity of Jesus would not have informed people of miracles not previously known to them. He might have even tried to deny some of the miracles recorded in the canonical gospels. On the other hand, the prophet Muhammad honestly conveyed the message delivered to him from Allah. (May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him.)
    Allah tells us the truth without fear. Human beings trying to win followers tell us only what is conducive to winning us over. They usually withhold information that could lead to opposite conclusions. On the other hand, Allah informs us about the miracles of Jesus even if people use this information to support their prior commitment to the doctrine of the divinity of Jesus. Allah does not need to win worshippers. Those who worship Allah does so for their own good. And those who worship false gods do so to their own detriment.
    What Allah emphasizes, though, is that the miracles of Jesus do not prove he was divine. The miracles he performed were a sign, a proof, that he was God’s messenger. He performed them with God’s help and permission. Those who use his miracles as proof of his divinity would choose to forget the following sayings of Jesus:
    I can of my own authority do nothing. (John 5:30)
    They also forget the declaration of Peter:
    Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves know. (Acts 2:22 KJV).
    These passages suggest that Jesus did not do miracles on his own. These, rather were accomplished by God’s leave. Allah reminds us of this. Jesus also constantly repeated to his audience that the miracles he performed were by God’s leave.

  • Jhonny

    well noodles, you better think again what your talking about! how can you compare a prophet with a singer? besides it is written in BIBLE aswell that Ahmad – the prophet of muslims will succeed me, strange why we are’nt doing that but atleast we can give him the respect… don’t spread the message of cowardness and hatred among muslims cuz we don’t wanna fight them

  • http://www.equetta.com Talha Ejaz

    What Mr. BRUCE do you want to say exactly? You are trying to compare Bible with Quran… now there are some different versions of Bible written by different people…while Quran has only one version that was reveled to Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) almost 1460 years ago and it remains unchanged… (So which book is more authentic) no man has ever tried to challenge the authenticity of the Holy Quran…If you really want to talk about then why don’t you study Quran regarding the birth of Prophet Issa (A.S) Jesus Christ?

  • Melissa

    Oh yeah, that’s awesome news!!!!! I’m happy for micheal, for he has finally found the right path. I converted to Islam from christianity as well. And i have made the best decision in my life. Go Michaelllllllll, You ROCK!!!!!! I LOVE ISLAM!!!!!!

  • muhammed defender

    NOODLES_pray for dear GOD to forgive you for saying such bad things about our beloved muhammed(may peace be upon him)or you will burn in hill forever.Just to give you 1 example of how much muhammed is white hearted is when he visited one of his jew enemy when he got sick and had no one to look after him.The jew ask muhammed why u r so kind to me while i was so bad by throwing garbig on your head.He our beloved prophet replied with a smile.That show you how much he is kind and do not ever say anything bad about him because GOD will burn you ih hill,so my advice to you is to apoligy and wake up.

    FOR jhon:take back what crap you said about dear mariam and dear jesus and show some respect for your religion.I am muslim but i love mariam ad jesus alot thats what our religion islam taught us.

  • one of the muslims

    i don’t give a shit if he did or didn’t embrace islam

    but i’ll tell u one thing u mother fucker Noodles

    the prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him). as u said
    ain’t no child rapist as u said so just don’t made things up on him or any other prophets or messengers u butt head

    and this is 4 the rest. muslims r not hijackers or murderous or whack jobs

    the arabs terrorist or afghanstans or whatever ain’t no normal muslims they had been tought just how 2 fight in the name of islam they didn’t been tought what is islam realy is. and every normal muslim is admit that they r not muslims as thy say

    is that clear all of u

  • Here

    Hey Justin Gardner & John

    I don’t care if michael convert to islam or not but what i care about that to shit ur mouth u and ur boyfriend(u fuckin gay) John
    cause if someone said such a thing about ur religion (which is forbidden in islam) i think oh sorry iam SURE that u and the stupid guy with ur idiot noodle friend will cry from the ASS
    or should i say from the Vagina
    and yeah by the way don’t think owning u the site(or supervisor)
    doesn’t give the right to say such thing u fuckin idiot(:)

  • Here

    by the way

    just see the statistics on AIDES in US and in the arab world motherfucker:)

  • gigi

    Maybe that’s why he became muslim, to run away from a finger pointing, media loving, lie loving culture. He went to a faith that is all forgiving and truth loving. Learn more about the faith, including your own before you think yourself entitled to make comments on it.
    The prophet did not consumate his marriage to the young girl he married until she was way past puberty. What about all that’s going on with the mormons sleeping with their daughters and sons and whatever else they can find? Why don’t you all worry about that? Trust me, they’re plenty of whack jobs here and murderers and baby killers out of islam as well. there are good and bad people in every faith so stop knocking one that you don’t understand!


    Why are you all concerened about Micheal Jackson! leave him alone, let him free, he is human also.
    Why are you all acting silly! religion is between yourself and your God, and not to share with others. So go do some usefull work, and stop acting like babies.

  • diego

    noodles,justin and the others are they faggorts?its sick

  • damn u!

    argh damn u Noodles… ppl like u suck higgggh time… fuck u do… this is the bloody brilliant so called perfect society u associate ureself too… no rights of others’ religiongs n u go on blabbin bullshit stuff about other religions… how dare u insult my beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)… this is the difference between true gud ppl… n bloody assholes like you… i know ure religion i respect it and Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him).. for i believe in him too… but ppl like u… ure biased… ure the ones who start terrorism… and then… wow its us muslims! get a life u biased shithead.. my religion restrains me from intrudin in ure rights.. speakin ill of u.. it only allows me to convince u by simple reasonin and no force… but u ppl… no respect for fellow beings and their religions… mashAllah by the grace of Allah the Almighty i m soo thankful for bein an open eyed Muslim and not a blind bloody human like you.. if ure too damn blinded to see the truth… atleast don speak ill of it…. and fatima i dunno wat ure playin it.. “in the days of the Prophet there were customs of marryin younglings… no ones perfect so he did it”.. are u mad or summin… he WAS perfect.. and he didn marry a young one,… she was 9 years old and had approached puberty… and plus there were other reasons for marriage.. he didn do it out of fun ‘nauzubillah’… he did it for strengthenin relations with her tribe and other reasons known to him… plz go on and read summin rather then talk about it… and thnx to all other faithful muslims who hav risen against these… don hav words to describe such rotten ppl :@…. now i havent rwead wat everyone has been sayin but ive read about a couple o msgs and this is all ive gathered… so ppl learn to respect others’ religion as we do urs… islam does not believe in aggression or conversion to islam by force… so ppl purlese SEARCH b4 u say stuff… and noodles and every other shithead here who thinks ill of my religion… well present ure arguments WITHOUT bullshit stuff.. in short noodles and every other a**hole out there… jus shut up and go to hell if ur gona say ill stuff about islam…:@… bye all… may Allah guide you all to heaven… and now look uve all made me sinful by makin me abuse:@… may Allah forgive me.. and us all… Ameen,… Allah Hafiz everyone

  • http://www.xanga.com/ssprincezz_01 sadie

    if its true that he converted thank allah cuz islam is the true religion of peace……….

  • goomootagahsarah

    michael jackson the guys a fruit cake.there is no proof at all if his a muslim.

  • Jennifer

    hey i really like this discussion and this debating , i would like to say my own opinion and i agree with alot of u like mike and this one who hates jewish and alot because Islam is the best religion on earth and if micheal jackson really become a muslim then thats wounderful ..

  • Koong

    Islam the religion of peace?????


  • SolidSnake

    yah it’s
    islam is the religion of peace

    either if u want 2 believe or not
    it doesn’t change the truth
    and please don’t give us stupid comments
    cause those comments show us how stupid u r

  • Yasir

    May you get Guidness, my question is to all people, why you use bad & abuesd words about other religion either its islam, hinduisaim, Christianity etc If you are true follower of your relgion then you should not use that kind of words, As Allah says in Quran ” Don’t say bad words about other religion(or the God of others) cause then in reply with ignorance they say samething to Allah” From this you can know that even if you are Christian if you say bad words then the people of other relgion will say to you as well, but to muslim this is not allow and if some muslim due then he is not true muslim and he dont follow islam, Dont put the balck label in Islam there are black sheeps in every comunity, infact no relgion of the world Say or teach bad things.

    for example :- In Bible the following thing are clearly prohibted
    * Drinking
    * Eating Pork
    * Intrest
    etc but mostly Christian do all of three things, so i should call that Christianity is bad or Jesus (Peach be upon him) is bad no neve ever. infact islam is only religion that respect Jesus (peac be upon him) other then Christianity. No religion change or reform ast most of the people say change the religion as the way of life are changing. Religion is from GOD not from the any person like you and me. Prople words can be change but not the GOD. Can you change you parents or reform them into some other shape ? are your way of life is changing ? will you change each and every thing with in you as you can’t leave with it cause you need freedom ? We Musilm say and there is not a single doubet in it that GOD is one and same thing other religion says, there is not a single verus in Bible in which Jesus(Peac be upon him) says that i am Lord worship me, not a single. If i ask my Christian brothers as the say The father, the SON and the holy spirt they are three but one. How could be three can one some one say ” like Apple a cover, a flesh and a seed, three but one apple but what if there are more then one seed ? Like a egg a cover, white stuff (sorry i dont remember the name as my english no so good but at least i am trying my best) and the yolk three but one ? what if egg have two yolk or routen, ooh its like a Family Husband , wife and a kid three but one What if there are more then one KIDS or the Get divorse, GOD can’t be with doubts, GOD is Unique. Did God actually write the Bible?” by saying: “The Bible is the Inspired Word of Man FROM GOD.” Basically, it means that humans (inspired humans, but humans just the same) wrote the Bible. That quickly explains the errors, mistakes, deletions and additions which have crept in and fell out over the years. He would add: “But it is still the Word of God, as inspired to man.” ? if you love to have a GOD and believe in GOD then Seek the guidness fo true, As Allah says ” He give to guidness onyl to those who seek”. i am dont have too much knowledge but i seek for it , as i was trying to know Christianity better i came across a website the link is as follow by the Priests & Preachers Enter Islam he tell his story what is similarties in islam & christainity, i think is you realy wanted to know about both of them shoudl take 5 mint of your life and read the artical

    Choice is always with the Man, he seek for truth and which religion he see the truth in it, but the main thing is you should seek for truth & accept the truth.

  • ubaidullah

    it is right that in islam age of merriage is less than western .can u tell some thing?. why 90 persent of western girl lost thier virginty in early age as that of as that of islam .

  • Nauman

    About Massacre of Banu Quraisah, this issue has been raised all the times by Non Muslims. One should know the facts that it was not a massacre because that Jewish tribe had violated the treaty( that they would not help the enemies of prophet) at the very moment when whole arab attacked Medina in the Battle of Trench. Those were the darkest moments of the Muslims as they had enemy in front i.e. Arab pagans and this hostile jewish tribe whose is ready to stab from the back. It is historically proven that after the end of war when they were questioned they admitted that they violated the treaty. They agreed to face the punishment endorsed by the former Jew (then a Muslim) Saad bin Muaaz who declared the judgement according to Torah about wat should be done to who braek treaty. Only those males were killed which had reached puberty. No women and children were killed.

  • Auwal Ismail

    Michael has converted to Islam “CONGRATULATIONS”
    He has even made a song “Give Thanks to Allah”

    Give thanks to Allah,
    for the moon and the stars
    prays in all day full,
    what is and what was
    take hold of your iman
    dont givin to shaitan
    oh you who believe please give thanks to Allah.
    Allah o Ghafoor Allah o Rahim Allah o yihibbon Mohsinin,
    o Khalikhone o Razikhone whahua ala kolli shai in khadir

    Allah is Ghafoor Allah is Rahim Allah is the one who loves the Mohsinin,
    he is a creator, he is a sustainer and he is the one who has power over all.

    Give thanks to Allah,
    for the moon and the stars
    prays in all day full,
    what is and what was
    take hold of your iman
    dont givin to sjeitan
    oh you who believe please give thanks to Allah.
    Allah o Ghafoor Allah o Rahim Allah o yihibbon Mohsinin,
    o Khalikhone o Razikhone whahua ala kolli shaiin khadir

    Allah is Ghafoor Allah is Rahim Allah is the one who loves the Mohsinin,
    he is a creater, he is a sustainer and he is the one who has power over all.

    But a WARNING to MJ…

    If it is true that he is a homosexual, then he must STOP immediately or else he is not a good muslim, and Islam does not accept Homesexuality and child abuse, he must STOP immediately, or else he will face prosecution if found guilty.

    And for those who are saying that Muhammad S.A.W. Peace be upon him, marry Aisha at 9 years, yes he does, but please always remember Aisha is the strongest among all Muslim Women in this world, she live longer and spread the religion of Islam, and Aishat did not get birth to any child untill after some years. Please go back and read history of Prophet Muhammad before commenting about anything.

    May God make us understand better and follow the right path to paradise, may He bless Prophet Muhammad and his family and his followers.

    Because now, wheather you like it or not you know you must die, then if you die at a good phase you know,,, and if you die at a BAD phase you know,,, all Muslims know they are following the right path if they follow what the Holy Qur’an says, and follow the Hadith of the Prophet.


  • Hashmat

    hi Dandan and Jennifer, you both are very sensible personnel. i fully support your view point. i like persons like you who instead of indulging themselves in the useless discussion guide others to do something useful. If Michel Jackson has converted to Islam its ok. Islam does not need any star. Here in the circle of Islam every person is alike to God, the preference is only based on the quality and quantity of “TAQWA” as said by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) during his last sermon on mount Arafat. God bless you all. I shall only say if any non-muslim wants to know about the reality and facts of Islam, he or she should study it secretly and when fully convinced follow the path or reject it, its totally upto one’s will and not against it.

  • Liana

    I cant stand the word “freedom of speech or expression” afcourse you can say what you think but insulting is another level there’s a need for freedom of speech but there’s no need for freedom to insult because every one can excercise their thoughts without insulting.

    The west these days (its not only the west i bet other countries copy their teachings as if they’re prophets) has this double standards. i’m sure that if a child in class insulted another student the teacher would tell him/her of our maybe even send him/her out and the child cant say “this is violating my freedom of speech”. but as soon as the child is out of the clasroom he can insult whoever he/she wants to insult, suddenly it doesnt matter.

  • NABBIE-SALOUALAHIE-alahie-ayie-ayie allah allah allah…….


    You better shut the f!@#$ up saying the wrong things about Islam. You know what your just a big bully, everyone knows that a bully is a coward at heart. I for one am a Muslim (this is for all the muslims who blogged on this discussion) what if I started saying the same thing about Jesus( hazrat Eisa alay islam) & why in the world are judging Islam, for Islam is not at all easy we have to pray five times a day etc. In the HOLY QURAN it says not to judge another religion, you are without knowing anything about the religion are saying that Hazrat mohammed (peace be upon him) was a child rapist. And everyone knows that Allah soobanawatallah had permitted the mariage of Aisha & Hazrat Mohammed (peace be upon him) 4 years before Aisha became of age. SO mr noodles the guy with the big noodles are an a@!hole thankyou!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • NABBIE-SALOUALAHIE-alahie-ayie-ayie allah allah allah…….

    The western media has corrupted the minds of Muslims who live there. Because Islam is a religion who tells the truth. For as christanity the bible has been changed hundreds of times.& the HOLY QURAN has stayed pure and hasn’t changed for 1400+ years. So you better get the Peace tv channel so you can watch the lectures and good stuff about Islam by Dr. Zakir Naik, Yusuf Estes and other people this is great advice

  • jihan

    Al;hamdulillah if it is True,as we can see Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth..We should Pray and thanks Allah for that wonderful news…We should also pray that there will be more like Mickhael Jackson or like Cat Stevens..InshaAllah

  • omar tosson

    i don`t know y people is feeling so bad when a person converts 2 islam !!!!! the people who said that that it`s sucks i think that only hearing the sound from the churche not from thier minds. i hope people thinks positively and 2 know wut made this people 2 convert 2 islam. i hope that no 1 says about isalm any thing bad it`s 4 ur own sake not 4 me! so take care from wut ur saying!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.kozoru.com Justin Gardner

    Omar, I don’t think anybody converting to Islam is a bad thing. Far from it. But I think Jackson converting to Islam seems like a pretty transparent PR move. Hey, I could be wrong, but I reserve the right to be extremely skeptical of this VERY stupid man and his motives.

  • fanny butt

    is anyone a faggort in this blog?i here noodles is a big time poof,he likes men not women.

  • another one

    All Wht i know that islam is the true and if any one read in islam he will take the decision like Jackson , u did not see how many peoples converts to islam, or u didnot see how many big pastors converted
    PLZ Just Have ALOOK, and u will go sad for every moment passed from ur life where u not muslim

  • TurkishMuslimChickForLife

    Noodle…u mother fucker..INSALLAH mighty Allah burns u in hell like no other human being…u aint no friend bitch.Wtf is wrong wit .We muslims dont giv two shits on how mother fuckin Jews hate us?Buh we do not show our hate do we mother fucker?DO WE ASS HOLE??? WE ARE NOT TERRERIST!! Jews are the ones makin up shit or w,e ppl r tryna make us look bad.U fucker dont no the Quran iight..dont talk sht bout suymthing u never tried!! FUCK U ALL FUC U TO HELL…Wen u all die..and brun in hell..imma sit there wit popcorns in ma hands n watch u beg…insallah man.we muslims rnt all good..but HEY WHO THE FUK IS…we dont balme u fuckers for bevliin ur fuckin stuff..but dont go blamin us for wut we belive…u fuckers dont noe shit!! I arther cry n die for Islam to grow n beyong then be sum fuckin piece of shit like urself n laugh in the end for not givin my belifs to grow.I aint sayin im a good gurl..am i? no1 is..igght.We all r shit.But tht dont mean wut we belive in shit.its wut be belive tht helps us…tht shows teaches fixes our mistakes…think ur shit b4 dumpin it jackass.Insallah tht Allah burns u like no man has ever been burned…Insallah.


  • TurkishMuslimChickForLife



    This true hatered goes towards s fuker “noodled” to y’all tht backed up on us..GOd Bless…to fukes like noodle…see u in hell sucker…n Koony fucker…its peace iight…hate it or love it..ight…go fuck ur dad then iight..since u fukin shit think its alrite to fuck ne man at ur fukin age…

  • Mohamed Abd El Mageed

    Hey , iam so happy for MIchael being muslim..he took the right path
    thanks god for helping him, and by the way all the things that Michael have done in his life before islam have forgiven like , Drinking, rapist, molesting children and all bad things.it doesnt matter now
    iam so happy for you Michael

  • Mohamed Abd El Mageed

    Hey , iam so happy for MIchael being muslim..he took the right path
    thanks god for helping him, and by the way all the things that Michael have done in his life before islam have forgiven like , Drinking, rapist, molesting children and all bad things.it doesnt matter now
    iam so happy for you Michael

  • Bellini

    There are more than a billion of muslims all over the world and, no doubt, some are highly educated and genius people who understand their religion…..Aren’t they?
    Recently I heard that lots of people converted to islam like philosophers, doctors, scientists,etc….. Are they mistaken?

  • logical person

    Dear all
    I was so attached to your threads that I decided to comment on the overall concersation. It is not a strength to curse and call names if somebody offend you for any reason. what is clever is to first first be respectful to your self first then others. If someone criticise Islam, it is not a clever thing to say bad words ,but to learn your religion first and practice it right and show a good example so people will follow you(isn’t that what Islam is?) following cerain belief or convincing people of your point doesn’t come with showting or pinpointing but respond to comments knowlingly. Islam is a wholly relighn and its great teaching is unignorable. Only ignorant people will stick to simple points which doesn’t represent the whole religion and keep going on and on.
    what I want to say it is important to not take everything personally and get offended fast, but to hear other people way of thinking and answer backl cleverly and defend your points because you are the stronger part only if you know your own belifs and religion.
    It is always a healthy way to criticise and point our opinions which we are most of the times are not taught to do
    be clever and be a good muslim

  • Dr.King

    this news are true because i heard his islamic song “Give thanks to allah ” and i have it if any one want it ..

  • http://www.subcoded.com Subhan Ahsan

    To All Muslims commenters, my humble advice is to refrain from abusive comments. Throughout the 1400 years there have been time and again persons with no knowledge who degraded the Prophet (saw). But we can see for our selves that their efforts bear no fruits and theres are over 1.9 billion muslims who love&pay respect to Prophet(saw) and all those Prophets(saw) before him.

    And to all those Truth Haters:
    The World has disowned your KING of POP merely on some allegations (which has till date not been proved). If Prophet(saw) would really have been what you say, then he would not have so many followers. Can you show a single King like Muhammed(saw)?

    Michael Jackson that we know, either you hate him or love him, is a product of Western Culture and if the news of his conversion is true, then Inshallah the World will see the transformation that Islam brings in.

    To Muslims:
    We may never be able to counter the hate-media against Islam through offensive words. But if we follow the teachings of our Prophet(saw) then our deeds would be enough to tell the truth.

  • majid

    hey folks..plz dont fight..its MJ’s personal life. let him have his space and v dont have to waste our time by commentin on anybody’s personal life.let MJ do wht he feels and v ll do wht v feel but at the same time by not degrading anybody or any religion or for tht matter anything,,take care

  • A muslim

    jOHn, Shut da F*** UP!!!!!
    ur da 1 hus ridiculus,
    I’M SOOO gonna get so many people to tell ya dat if ya say anything about our prophet muhhamad do consider yurself dead, Listen to Ozi!!!!!
    And If MJ converted then its obvious that its da right religion, so get lost!!!!
    find a religion if ya sed ur not a jew or a chrstian

  • theiboy

    i agree with subhan ahsan…bless him for his patience…
    come on…. this is why people get to war… insulting each others religion and their doings…. most of u grew up with people from other religion probably dats y u dun respect and understand each other religion…. understand dat all religions are teaching each and everyone of us to be good… and some religion forbid to do certain things while the other religions are allowed… we must respect this…. whatever prophet Muhammad s.a.w. has done was not wrong…he had done nothing wrong… so plz, dun insult it….. and for all those who had insulted islam, pls dun do it again….yes this may be a blog where you could say your thoughts freely but theres always a limit…

  • http://shojohotmail.co.uk light

    salam people,

    for thouse who curse our prophet, just to say like nooddles,
    on the last day, not even your mother will save you, rise be wise,to another human be nice, we came to this level, only for the hardship of our prophet mohammed (pbh) study everyday about him and your heart will get softer, your love will grow, we are prepared to do anything for our beloved prophet (pbh) dying is just the begening…….so be real carefull what you say, cos if u face us, you or who ever will be destroyed by just the power of knowledge first taught only by our prophet (pbh)

  • john

    justin, when are you going to retire this post? It’s getting a little tired.

  • against all odds

    salam brothers,

    wether micheal jackson reverts to islam or not should not concern us, our aim is to fight against all odds, and purify our iman each day, our past helps us to go forward with stronger iman, the enemy of islam will distract us in many ways, so our lesson should be taught from our beloved prophet mohammed (PBH) what our prophet has predicted is what exactly happening today on the face of the earth, so brothers be prepared to give up this dunya, and stand strong is time for us to give back some of our pain that they injected in our muslim blood, western society are full of false and tricks, slowly they will try to kill all of us, the western brothers whom speak against our beloved prophet (PBH) needs to wake thier minds cos they will be fighting against us muslims, and for their information we have already killed them of with our intelectual knowleadge they are below animals and they live with dogs. May Allah strengthen our iman salam to all brothers and sisters in islam.


    I’m curious about something in jackson’s story, didn’t ” The singer said he decided to convert to Islam because he is convinced it is the closest religion to his personal beliefs. ”

    can i ask where’s his believes?! Islam didn’t say that you can change you face features to be more cute, Islam didn’t say that you can use the childrens to do sex, Islam didn’t ask to do what “Jackson” did.
    although “ALLAH” said that he can forgive anyone who want to be a good muslim from his heart. I’m not trying to confuse any body, but i’m trying to find an answer about what he already said, what dies he mean by”The singer said he decided to convert to Islam because he is convinced it is the closest religion to his personal beliefs. “if he was going away from any religion.
    that might mean that he was doing that out of his mind, or he just trying to gain the arab’s trust,especially the muslim people.
    i’m not sura but anyway allah ghafor rahim.

  • anti-muslim

    how stupid is jackson.. wat can i say he will be sending himself to hell!

  • http://foxnews.com Kontolezarice

    you americans seems so upset and full of hatred hearing the story of a person converting to islam, and keep telling rubbish about his unproven sexual child abuse

    When paris hilton with her pathetic stupidity and disgusting sexual tape you just be silent and acting that it’s okay…

    yup, definitely an empty drum always make louder noise than the full one

  • http://foxnews.com the_truth

    not surprise. right now every country in this world (except israel) hate america, and majority people in this planet also hates american. Now even it’s own citizen, the most influential one also can’t stand with. i support michael jackson (even though i’m chineese and not muslim) and always hope 4 the best to him. Just leave that disgusting country and pathetic people soon and you’ll get better michael!!!

    BRAVO Michael Jackson