Iraqis Want Us Out…Want Us To Stay

Iraqis Want Us Out…Want Us To Stay


As much as I think it’s a bad idea, you can’t disagree with a poll that says 7 out of every 10 Iraqis want us gone within a year.

From World Public Opinion:

A new WPO poll of the Iraqi public finds that seven in ten Iraqis want US-led forces to commit to withdraw within a year. An overwhelming majority believes that the US military presence in Iraq is provoking more conflict than it is preventing and there is growing confidence in the Iraqi army. If the US made a commitment to withdraw, a majority believes that this would strengthen the Iraqi government. Support for attacks on US-led forces has grown to a majority position�now six in ten. Support appears to be related to a widespread perception, held by all ethnic groups, that the US government plans to have permanent military bases in Iraq.

But remember…oh remember…that Iraq’s own President has called for us to stay and build bases in the country

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, in an interview, asked for a long-term US military presence in Iraq, saying his country will need two permanent US air bases to deter “foreign interference.”

“I think we will be in need of American forces for a long time — even two military bases to prevent foreign interference,” Talabani told The Washington Post.

“I don’t ask to have 100,000 American soldiers — 10,000 soldiers and two air bases would be enough.”

Now either Talibani doesn’t have the pulse of his nation or he knows what’s good for them. Either way, we’re getting some incredibly mixed messages here.

I don’t know people, I’m of the opinion that we either commit or we forget. And what I don’t want to see is a couple of long term bases with a few thousand troops there. That’s just asking for more trouble since we’re setting up shop in holy lands. We need to either stay and up our troop levels so we can have a real presence that delivers real results or just get the hell out of there and call it a day. Because the notion of us setting up some in-between limbo where extremists can focus their hate seems like an incredibly transparent move to simply keep the oil safe…not the Iraqi people.

  • Orderer

    I’ve been struggling with the fact there are no specific goals for achieving success in the Iraqi occupation and there are no clear timelines when we’ll accomplish those lack of goals. I’ve been struggling, that is, until I read an analysis by Stratfor.

    The general gist is that Iran’s military has become the strongest in the region. And Saddam, with all of his sadistic tendencies, was an equalizing force for Iran. With a weak Iraq, Iran could conceivably control or even occupy Iraq’s Shiite-dominated South and could also stir up popular support from Shiites in other Sunni-controlled Middle East countries. The US is acting as a deterrent.

    This is, by far, the most reasonable explanation I’ve seen for the continued presence of US troops in Iraq… and also the most depressing. If this truly is the case, then a large force would have to stay in Iraq until the Iraqi Army could serve as a deterrent to Iran. This reason would also provide an argument for leaving Saddam alone. *sigh*

  • Mikkel

    Justin I think this perfectly sums up the Talabani view.

  • probligo

    “Now either Talibani doesn’t have the pulse of his nation or he knows what’s good for them. Either way, we’re getting some incredibly mixed messages here.”

    Third alternative –

    Talibani has an arm up his bum working his brain for him.

    Read Mikkel’s link too.

    Pull-out is not an option. It is the equivalent of the police breaking into your home, telling the neighbours that you are all convicted paedophiles, killing your kids, trashing the house, then walking out and saying “your problem”.