The "Problems" With Rudy

The "Problems" With Rudy


He’s splitting the GOP in two because of his views on abortion and gays.

From the WSJ:

“If the party nominates a social liberal like Giuliani, there’s not only the potential, but there’s an inevitability of a split,” says John Stemberger, president of the Florida Family Policy Council, a politically active social-conservative group. “Republicans will learn if that happens, they’re going to a pay a price for nominating a social liberal” — by losing the White House in 2008 if social conservatives sit out the election.

On that, some conservatives who focus on economic issues would agree. “There is a danger,” says former Republican Rep. Pat Toomey, president of the Club for Growth, a hard-line antitax group. “There has been a very constructive alliance” of social and economic conservatives, “and it’s hard to imagine cobbling together a majority of Americans without reaching both. But a guy like Mayor Giuliani might be able to secure the nomination without the support of social conservatives.”

In my mind, as I follow the issues and trends, the split is inevitable. Repubs can’t keep running on the social agenda. The country is trending towards a reality where social issues will be more liberal. Maybe that will cost the GOP 2008, but ultimately I believe that the country is going towards a much more Libretarian reality. The party to get closer to that sooner will reap the rewards. Will it be the GOP or the DNC? My guess…neither.

So mark my words…in the next 12 years we will see an Independent candidate take the White House. Maybe it won’t be 2008, but it will happen. America will demand it.

And to that point…

In the general election, they add, Mr. Giuliani could be the most electable Republican because his support of abortion rights, gun control and gay couples’ civil unions could appeal to independents and moderate Republicans. Many of those voters abandoned the party in last fall’s elections, believing it has become too beholden to the religious right.

Again, America will demand it.

  • Kevin Norte

    We will know the answer by the morning of February 6, 2008. By then the results of Florida, California, and New York will be in. America is shifting towards a more libertarian view but with a strong national defense tint. Giuliani’s views on abortion and GLBT rights are not out of step with mainstream Americans. True, social concervatives may stay home but Giuliani will hopefully get the majority of the votes from moderate Republicans while the remainder of the pro-life anti-GLBT gang split the votes. Therfore I believe he can get the nomination because he is where we are going as a united country.

  • s.sommer

    I liked Rudy A LOT, until I found out about his business partner mafia-tied crook pal..
    and, found out that his consulting firm has the Spanish company that is building the highway from Mexico right up the middle of our country… that private highway that the gov of Texas has wanted to keep so quiet… Anybody who would propose a crook to run Homeland Security, and is making money off that super highway from Mexico is NOT getting my vote. I agree with Rudy on lots of things, like the man’s style, but we do not need to invite more corruption and betrayal of America into the Oval office,
    ‘Been there, done that, had ENOUGH, I am looking for another candidate, now. SS

  • Transplanted Lawyer

    We had plenty of corruption under Clinton, SS. And we’ve had plenty more under Bush the Younger, with incompetence to boot. In fact, we had plenty of corruption under Bush the Elder and Reagan. I frankly don’t remember the Carter years well enough at this point to recall if there was corruption then, but why wouldn’t there have been? Somehow, the Republic found a way to keep on functioning despite some people in the government — possibly even including Presidents of both parties — being for sale.

    I’m not excusing any corruption that Giuliani may have personally or have associated with him. What I’m suggesting is that if you insist on a squeaky-clean candidate you’re going to wind up with an idealogue like Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich. Assuming that such a candidate could win (a big assumption,) is that really a better result?