Once Again, GOP Governors Support Stimulus Plan

Once Again, GOP Governors Support Stimulus Plan


Maybe you think their claims are overblown, but something tells me that they wouldn’t be spending political capital if they didn’t really need the money.

Because we’re talking about unemployment that’s approaching the double digits in bigger states like California and Florida and unemployment numbers (which is the better gauge of how folks are doing) already in the double digits in most states.

Here’s Florida governor Charlie Crist putting his neck out there and taking the middle road.

Note Crist said, “This is about jobs, jobs, jobs.”

Listen, everybody knows that Crist could be a GOP prez candidate in 2012 and yet he’s arguing for the plan. It’s really easy for Mitt Romney to draft his own legislation since he’s out of the state house and doesn’t have anybody to answer to.

Make of this what you will, but I’m seeing people who know how bad things are in their states and they’re not afraid to argue for what they think is right.

  • kranky kritter

    I object to your characterization of Crist’s PoV as being especially worthy of our attention and respect, while simultaneously dismissing Romney’s.

    Most governors have to be for their state first and their party second, unless and until they reach the stage where they are bailing on their state to run for President. Like when Mitt Romney rediscovered his socially conservative principles at the advent of his prez run.

    If Crist’s state goes down the tubes while he’s in charge, his prez prospects will be precisely nil. That means that it’s just as easy for Crist to support this particular bill now as it is for Mitt Romney to say that we need something that’s more carefully crafted.

    So far from Crist being a profile in courage, I think it’s more accurate to see him as a profile in

    “Heelllp! Heelllp! Heelllp! Holy sh!t, someone bail out my state and me.”

    Not that there’s anything intrinsically wrong with that PoV. Again, what I object to is your characterization of Crist’s PoV as being especially worthy of our attention and respect, while, simultaneously dismissing Romney’s.

    I object to it, but it doesn’t surprise me. You have consistently supported the PoV that says its far more important to do something really big really quickly than it is to ascertain whether what we do is likely to provide substantial sustained help beyond the near term.

    I’m happy to acknowledge that yes, delay MAY be fatal. The future is, after all unwritten. But you are always eager to avoid conceding that precipitous action could lead to our squandering one of our few chances to effectively turn things around. Your philosophy seems to consistently chant “ready, fire, aim.”

    What astonishes me these days is how very many of the same folks who complained that we invaded Iraq precipitously are now eager to risk the solvency of our government by quickly throwing giant piles of borrowed money at every half-baked politically riven proposal that a congresscritter can get down on paper.

    Sin in haste, repent at leisure, I guess.

  • http://itsthe21stcenturystupid.wordpress.com Jim S

    Missouri is going to run out of money for the unemployed next week. They are turning to the Feds, justifiably so. Romney has consistently shown himself to be a jackass who doesn’t care about anything except positioning himself for higher office. So yes, a sitting governor trying to do something for the citizens of his state deserves more consideration than someone out of office with no responsibility to anyone. And since you seem to love characterizing those who disagree with you as irresponsible let me point out that many of the criticisms of items in the current bill show both ignorance and political opportunism. But I frankly doubt that you are able to objectively look at them, kk.

  • http://www.warning1938alert.ytmnd.com Jimmy the Dhimmi

    Now Obama just has to convince 73% of Americans who currently do not support plan or are unure.

    My favorite line from the report:

    Most Americans believe that a dollar of tax cuts is better for the economy than a dollar of government spending. “

    Talk some sense to the American people JG! Oh, and go back to your old comments format in the sidebar. It was better when you knew what thread was updated. The current way is too confusing.

  • Avinash_Tyagi

    Jimmy, Moody already showed that Tax cuts are less stimulative than Spending, and its true, simple economics, spending is spent, it stimulates, tax cuts can be used to pay off debts and be saved, not stimulative

  • http://itsthe21stcenturystupid.wordpress.com/ Jim S

    Rasmussen polls have become the joke of the polling industry as they have become less and less reliable and more and more Republican.

  • ExiledIndependent

    I love how no one was dismissing Rasmussen as partisan when his polls were favoring Obama during the Presidential race….

  • http://www.donklephant.com Justin Gardner

    Yeah, I’ll back Exiled on this one. Rasmussen isn’t a joke at all. They pretty much nailed the numbers time and time again, including the spread in the general election.

    However, it’s one poll and they have been wrong before.

    Here’s one from CBS yesterday…

    Fifty-one percent of those surveyed support the stimulus package, while 39 percent do not. An additional 10 percent don’t know. Last month, 63 percent supported the package and just 24 percent opposed it.

    Americans believe the president is following through on his promise to establish greater bipartisanship in Washington: The public overwhelmingly thinks Obama is reaching out to Congressional Republicans, with 81 percent saying he is doing so.

    Americans do not believe that Congressional Democrats and Republicans are following suit, however: Only 49 percent believe that Congressional Democrats are striving for bipartisanship, and just 41 percent say Congressional Republicans are seeking bipartisanship.

    What to make of this?

    There’s support out there, but it’s start to diminish. That’s all these polls ultimately tell us.

  • Tully

    And Zogby is run by a left-winger somewhat less moderate than Nancy Pelosi, but I see that missed mention. Irrelevant, of course–the proof is in the methodology and results. ALL polling firms have their off calls from variable sampling and construction problems–a poll is only as good as its samples and assumptions–but Rasmussen has far and away the best track record for the last three election cycles. They didn’t do it playing favorites.

    This poll could be an outlier, but at 5 to 1 they’re not calling that particular question the wrong way, and the broader results conform to Gallup’s polling as well. Support is at best ambivalent for the overall package, and the porkfest portion has lit up the public’s cynicism alarms. Party animals may reflexively love it (or hate it, by party) but the independents aren’t buying the sales pitch.

    For really bad partisan-slanted polling, try the LA Times. They’ve been so consistently wrong over the years you can make book on them being wrong.

  • http://westanddivided.blogspot.com/ mw

    Just curious. Can anyone cite one example of any governor of any state of any party at any time who has ever refused money from the feds? Or said they do not need more money from the feds?

    The only example that comes to mind, is Palin and that stupid bridge, and as I recall they took the money anyway.

    Why would anyone be surprised when Obama throws open the doors to federal vault and asks “Who wants some?” Every single governor says “Me, me, me.”