Comments on: For DVD the Angel of Death is abroad in the land http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2006/12/08/for-dvd-the-angel-of-death-is-abroad-in-the-land/ Top Technology news Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:30:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Gareth Powell http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2006/12/08/for-dvd-the-angel-of-death-is-abroad-in-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-1853 Gareth Powell Sun, 10 Dec 2006 01:53:09 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2006/12/08/for-dvd-the-angel-of-death-is-abroad-in-the-land/#comment-1853 I always feel encouraged when a comment starts by accusing me of being full of crap. Plainly Phil is incensed on a subject about which he plainly knows little. There is a belief among most Westerners who do not live, travel and know China that it is full of pirates copying Hollywood films. The truth is the Chinese basically could not give a stuff about Hollywood films. They, strange folk that they are, much prefer to watch Chinese films. Odd, I know but there it is. Which makes the second paragraph totally irrelevant. By and large Chinese do not buy Hollywood rip-offs. They think the films inferior. Yes, Hollywood rip offs do exist. They are bought by the same tourists who buy rip-off Rolex watches and what have you. Whether Hollywood like EVD or not is so irrelevant as to be, in a sense, farcical. If the major manufacturers of DVD switch to EVD - and the Chinese government says it will not manufacture DVD players after 2008 - then Hollywood will immediately follow suit. At least 80 percent of the makers are Chinese. Does China pirate things? Sure. As do many Asian countries. The ancient cultures of all those countries have no concept of copyright. It is very new to them. But they are getting the hang of it. An example. Go to China and make a copy of the Olympic 2008 t-shirt and see how long you retain your freedom. Incidentally, EVD is not secure. And as far I know that has never been suggested. Perhaps Hollywood, in whom you have a touching faith, may suggest that it be incorporated. Gareth Powell in Bangkok just up the road from Pan Thip Plaza. Now there you find copying on a grand scale. Hell, they even copy things that do not exist. I have a pair of Cartier socks. I always feel encouraged when a comment starts by accusing me of being full of crap.
Plainly Phil is incensed on a subject about which he plainly knows little.
There is a belief among most Westerners who do not live, travel and know China that it is full of pirates copying Hollywood films.
The truth is the Chinese basically could not give a stuff about Hollywood films.
They, strange folk that they are, much prefer to watch Chinese films. Odd, I know but there it is.
Which makes the second paragraph totally irrelevant.
By and large Chinese do not buy Hollywood rip-offs. They think the films inferior.
Yes, Hollywood rip offs do exist. They are bought by the same tourists who buy rip-off Rolex watches and what have you.
Whether Hollywood like EVD or not is so irrelevant as to be, in a sense, farcical.
If the major manufacturers of DVD switch to EVD – and the Chinese government says it will not manufacture DVD players after 2008 – then Hollywood will immediately follow suit. At least 80 percent of the makers are Chinese.
Does China pirate things?
Sure. As do many Asian countries. The ancient cultures of all those countries have no concept of copyright. It is very new to them. But they are getting the hang of it.
An example. Go to China and make a copy of the Olympic 2008 t-shirt and see how long you retain your freedom.
Incidentally, EVD is not secure. And as far I know that has never been suggested. Perhaps Hollywood, in whom you have a touching faith, may suggest that it be incorporated.

Gareth Powell in Bangkok just up the road from Pan Thip Plaza. Now there you find copying on a grand scale. Hell, they even copy things that do not exist. I have a pair of Cartier socks.

]]> By: Phil http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2006/12/08/for-dvd-the-angel-of-death-is-abroad-in-the-land/comment-page-1/#comment-1851 Phil Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:34:37 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2006/12/08/for-dvd-the-angel-of-death-is-abroad-in-the-land/#comment-1851 You're full of crap if you think Hollywood is just going to go headlong into supporting EVD for the world's most piracy condoning government, on this movie-to-EVD copying platform or any other form of EVD support for that matter, especially when the likes of DVD John could be an EVD John, possibly by a Chinese insider who hates the west. Like the old joke that one copy of Windows serves all of China, the first dollar is paid by Mr. Chinese pirate to get the data in EVD format via the crack and a zillion burns back to unlimited plays on pirate EVD, giving all of China and beyond a cheap way to screw Hollywood worse than ever before. Hollywood just gets part of that first dollar, if anything. Why the hell should Hollywood believe EVD DRM is secure when in a similar vein China has the nationalistic balls to claim WAPI WI-FI has superior security to 802.nn, yet won't make the algorithms open to those in doubt? Hollywood will, if they haven't lost their minds, test anything EVD related in limited steps to allow for developments in the piracy and hacking world. You’re full of crap if you think Hollywood is just going to go headlong into supporting EVD for the world’s most piracy condoning government, on this movie-to-EVD copying platform or any other form of EVD support for that matter, especially when the likes of DVD John could be an EVD John, possibly by a Chinese insider who hates the west.

Like the old joke that one copy of Windows serves all of China, the first dollar is paid by Mr. Chinese pirate to get the data in EVD format via the crack and a zillion burns back to unlimited plays on pirate EVD, giving all of China and beyond a cheap way to screw Hollywood worse than ever before. Hollywood just gets part of that first dollar, if anything.

Why the hell should Hollywood believe EVD DRM is secure when in a similar vein China has the nationalistic balls to claim WAPI WI-FI has superior security to 802.nn, yet won’t make the algorithms open to those in doubt?

Hollywood will, if they haven’t lost their minds, test anything EVD related in limited steps to allow for developments in the piracy and hacking world.

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