Comments on: BBC expert: Steorn … "a case of prolonged self deception"

By: piet

piet — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:20:03 +0000

Atoms are perpetually moving in a rotational way; so do magnetic feilds. Why not then be able to ‘harness’ such atomic rotation off a driveshaft? I believe it is possible, but not without an electromagnetic input in collaboration with permanent magnets. In other words, the “possibility” is more likely to result from “electric motor” type R&D, whereby the energy required to produce the timely electromagnet, providing “thrust” – operates in sync with an arrangement of permanent magnet “thrusts”: to produce a ‘two for the price of one’ senario; minus all the negatives (friction, mass of materials used, gravity, air resistence) leaving a ‘net positve’ over unity. And to achieve even a “proven” say 2% would be the “Breakthrough” (the ‘whright brother 300 metre flight on the beach’ – leading to 747′s)!? Not a ‘something from nothing’ but a combination of electromagnetic thrust and thrust from permanent magnets, both contributing to the “total thrust” delivered through a driveshaft; with hopefully the thrust contributed by the electromagnets largely paying for the electricity required? Thats the ‘Trick’ I believe (configuration, design, to achieve max efficiency, using what we “have” to work with – therefore: experiment, experiment, experiment; which I have and provisionally patented – hopefully with a “net positive result” to be “proven” beyond reasonable doubt; but very expensive to do – though I have a prototype “proving the principle” toward that Goal; a unique type of “stepter motor” and somewhat like the latest “washing machine motor”). Quite exciting! “No you have got, yes you might get!” Keep trying, ‘but dont sell your house’. (And be sure there are ALREADY some impressive inventions ‘on the shelf’ with some wealthy or politically powerful institutions; but when the ‘economic timing’ is right, will be disclosed. Too much money in oil at present and nuclear power stations – with too much ‘politics at Play’. But thats the “real world” too, isn’t it? Who’s to say ‘Big Brother’ didn’t have a ‘Hand’ in preventing Steorn!? Hmm? Amazing what ‘plausible excuses’ millions of $ can generate!? Kind of “natural” isn’t it? It will all come out eventually – just be nice if sooner than latter, for everyone’s sake and the planet. Hey: Obama knows about this ‘stuff’; maybe he will drive it forward? Seems a pretty nice guy. Said he wants to do some ‘stuff’ with Israel – let’s “see.” Meanwhile lets keep inventing, without getting too idealistic or synical? But lies and conartisty, ‘Madoff style business’, has to be a NO,NO! Tragic when some well meaning inventors resort to conartisty… when they fail to realize their original hopes. By the way, there are many ‘back yard inventors’ who are more creative and ‘brainy’, ‘lateral thinkers’ – than some recognized pHd “scientists” who spend millions of tax payers $ to achieve less! And in the ‘arena’ of alternative energy possibilities: the Answer will probably, fundamentally, be fairly simple afterall.)

By: Claudio

Claudio — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:24:27 +0000

I want to know, if have reward for who to get to make a MP?

By: drmike

drmike — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 04:27:18 +0000

I totally agree with Dr. Ash. Steorn paid for me to fly from Chicago to London and put me up in a hotel for 10 days. There is no way they’d have done that if they didn’t believe in what they had. Why they believe the impossible is not known, and probably never will be.

I sure enjoyed London though!

By: 007

007 — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 04:12:11 +0000

Steorn are a company of enginners, so we’re not just talking about one man here. The whole company would need to have been delusional for a period in excess of three years.

In short: The tech is real.

By: Mark Great-House

Mark Great-House — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 06:37:57 +0000

Science is a delicate field that does not deal with absolutes. In science, time has always been the best teacher. I am very curious how Steron proposes that his kinetic experiment is going to work. Although he may have attempted to capitolize off of his research prematurely, he is not the first. Give him the time he needs to explain himself and his invention before judging him.

By: TheFear

TheFear — Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:59:29 +0000

No matter how great the engineering is the device will always eventually find zero point and stop. So many people in history have tried creating permanent magnet motors and all of them have turned out the same. When permanent magnets are in the same flux field for any length of time the flux fields weaken. Every magnet has a “maximum energy product” rated in Mega Gauss Oersteds, MGOe. This is the amount of work a magnet can do before its level of magnetism has deteriorated to the point that its energy doesn’t reach out far enough to affect anything surrounding it. Contrary to the popular notion that rare earth magnets are invincible, even the most expensive sintered NdFeB magnets max out at less than 50 MGOe. If they are used in a device that puts them constantly in opposition, they will run down, and this is the whole assumption behind so-called “magnetic motors”. the other issue is this really isn’t free energy machine even if it did work because the permanent magnets had to get there flux fields from somewhere if the magnets where charged with current from another source or even if kinetically they where charged by rubbing two piece of metal together there was still a transfer of energy. The amount of energy used in manufacturing a magnet is typically 10 times what the magnet is capable of producing. More expensive magnets are even less efficient. Add to this the losses in energy incurred by these 33%-66% concept magnet devices themselves, and the energy consumed in the overall manufacturing process is 20-25 times the energy you will get out. The other thing to think about is that a permanent magnet will not always be a magnet it will eventually loose its flux over time. Now maybe that time might be 100 years and that’s all good but eventually it will die and if you put a magnet into another magnets flux field its life is shortened dramatically. Well anyways we all dream of free energy and I also hope we find it some day but I doubt it’s going to be orbo.

By: Danny

Danny — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:05:30 +0000

Why is everyone so sure that the machine violates the laws of physics? Do we know all the sources of energy? Are there 11 dimensions as some theoretical physicists suggest? If so, could energy be coming from one of those? The critics are a long way from knowing the answers to these questions, yet, in their ignorance, they are gleefully libelling people who seem to be trying their hardest to help out the world.

By: bc

bc — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:52:54 +0000

“science is all about challenging what we currently believe to be true”

That sounds very “Make Money Fast!”/Business 2.0, but it’s not what science is about. The Laws of Thermodynamics are not laid down by the evil Emperor, and Steorn are not the Rebel Alliance, but that would be a fun movie.

Science is about developing systematic knowledge of the Universe, explaining Natural phenomena in a formal way.

Since Steorn have been completely unable to present anything credible in over 3 years, they are just incompetents with a wild claim and a business plan.

By: Rocko Johnson

Rocko Johnson — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:36:21 +0000

The live demo in London was suppose to be very simple to show that there were “no strings attached” at all, that the device solely ran on its magnetic power without the use of an external battery source (which some people would probably think if they were to show a more complex model encased in metal, etc.). It was suppose to be just a spinning wheel, and when everyone were to say “what’s so special about this?”, then McCarthy said they would have connected a 10g weight to the wheel and watched as the wheel lifted it demonstrating their free energy claim. McCarthy said that they had three models at london, and when that first one failed (which was the most simplistic model of the three), that they sent the other two to the be checked for any problems as well.

By: Greg

Greg — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:59:07 +0000

I wonder what all of the knockers will say if ad when they get it up and running??

err. “Ok, where is the battery hidden?”

Believing OU is difficult enough. Believing this bunch of incompetents have discovered it is even harder.