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	<title>Comments on: Apple iPhone can kill your wi-fi network</title>
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		<title>By: Hyacinthus</title>
		<link>http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/18/iphone-can-kill-your-wi-fi-network/comment-page-1/#comment-243440</link>
		<dc:creator>Hyacinthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wifi on my home Netgear (WNF854T) actually has the same problem.  When the wifi on my iPhone is turned on, the wireless network cuts out every 15 - 60 minutes randomly.... All my machines lose wifi connectivity until the wifi router comes back on.

When the wifi on my iPhone is off, I don&#039;t have this problem.

I&#039;ve tried everything from changing Channels, &#039;modes&#039;, resetting to factory defaults, firmare upgrades, etc on the router...  Nothing fixes it.

The only thing I do know is that the wifi on my iPhone causes it, wether or not it&#039;s Apple&#039;s problem or Netgear&#039;s.

I guess netgear needs to come out with a &#039;fix&#039; also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wifi on my home Netgear (WNF854T) actually has the same problem.  When the wifi on my iPhone is turned on, the wireless network cuts out every 15 &#8211; 60 minutes randomly&#8230;. All my machines lose wifi connectivity until the wifi router comes back on.</p>
<p>When the wifi on my iPhone is off, I don&#8217;t have this problem.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried everything from changing Channels, &#8216;modes&#8217;, resetting to factory defaults, firmare upgrades, etc on the router&#8230;  Nothing fixes it.</p>
<p>The only thing I do know is that the wifi on my iPhone causes it, wether or not it&#8217;s Apple&#8217;s problem or Netgear&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I guess netgear needs to come out with a &#8216;fix&#8217; also.</p>
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		<title>By: PR</title>
		<link>http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/18/iphone-can-kill-your-wi-fi-network/comment-page-1/#comment-235716</link>
		<dc:creator>PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an iphone 3GS and two Linksys WT200 Access Points at home. When I turn on the iphone&#039;s wifi functions, the access points will go offline for 10 minutes at a time, every hour. Walking around the house with the iphone seems to make matters worse.
If I disable wifi on the iphone, things return to normal. I&#039;ve changed channels on the routers and access points to no avail. After I stumbled into this post, I ran wireshark and I noticed that the iphone is in fact spamming the network. I believe the issue is not just the iphone - there is obviously a problem with the linksys software.
My understanding is that the iphone is doing something wrong, however the access points should not be vulnerable to what any wifi client is doing, and in this case, they are. I place the blame on linksys/cisco for writing vulnerable software, however the iphone is not perfect as it is the only client that causes this problem that I know of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an iphone 3GS and two Linksys WT200 Access Points at home. When I turn on the iphone&#8217;s wifi functions, the access points will go offline for 10 minutes at a time, every hour. Walking around the house with the iphone seems to make matters worse.<br />
If I disable wifi on the iphone, things return to normal. I&#8217;ve changed channels on the routers and access points to no avail. After I stumbled into this post, I ran wireshark and I noticed that the iphone is in fact spamming the network. I believe the issue is not just the iphone &#8211; there is obviously a problem with the linksys software.<br />
My understanding is that the iphone is doing something wrong, however the access points should not be vulnerable to what any wifi client is doing, and in this case, they are. I place the blame on linksys/cisco for writing vulnerable software, however the iphone is not perfect as it is the only client that causes this problem that I know of.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan Antram</title>
		<link>http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/18/iphone-can-kill-your-wi-fi-network/comment-page-1/#comment-20435</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan Antram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s not a reporter.  He&#039;s a Microsoft shill.  Look at the negative headlines these guys associate with iPhone while the Zune headlines glow, so please don&#039;t deny it and feign impartiality.

Here&#039;s the updated story of the Duke U. WiFi problem.  It turns out it&#039;s a problem with Cisco, not the iPhone.

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&amp;articleId=9027538&amp;intsrc=news_ts_head

You&#039;re welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not a reporter.  He&#8217;s a Microsoft shill.  Look at the negative headlines these guys associate with iPhone while the Zune headlines glow, so please don&#8217;t deny it and feign impartiality.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the updated story of the Duke U. WiFi problem.  It turns out it&#8217;s a problem with Cisco, not the iPhone.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&#038;articleId=9027538&#038;intsrc=news_ts_head" rel="nofollow">http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&#038;articleId=9027538&#038;intsrc=news_ts_head</a></p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Oblak - MacBigot.com</title>
		<link>http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/18/iphone-can-kill-your-wi-fi-network/comment-page-1/#comment-20185</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Oblak - MacBigot.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NetworkWorld.com: Duke IT staff &amp; their Cisco network confused by Apple iPhones; trade rags take bait

Let me see if I can wrap my head around this -- some bored students figured out what the MAC address range is on the iPhones, and they styled an attack using a couple of Linux machines hidden somewhere on campus to masquerade as Apple &#039;troublemakers&#039;, and are sniggering at the resulting buffoonery created between the Duke &#039;network admins&#039; and the press.

Hello!?!??!? If these are actually the people responsible for Duke&#039;s network, they would have better communication skills -- what they are saying is happening is less unlikely than impossible (unless the iPhone and Cisco&#039;s routers&#039; SuperPowers are being boosted by the Earth&#039;s yellow sun and are no longer hindered by their original design limitations).

Why has this been going on for several days and yet no one has reported the same issue on another network?

It&#039;s because: It&#039;s not happening on Duke&#039;s network, either. It&#039;s a hack. A scam. A ruse.

By some students who can probably be identified by a duct-taped WiFi canon made from a couple of Pringles cans protruding from their backpacks.

The &#039;reporter&#039; should be ashamed for not doing his homework.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NetworkWorld.com: Duke IT staff &amp; their Cisco network confused by Apple iPhones; trade rags take bait</p>
<p>Let me see if I can wrap my head around this &#8212; some bored students figured out what the MAC address range is on the iPhones, and they styled an attack using a couple of Linux machines hidden somewhere on campus to masquerade as Apple &#8216;troublemakers&#8217;, and are sniggering at the resulting buffoonery created between the Duke &#8216;network admins&#8217; and the press.</p>
<p>Hello!?!??!? If these are actually the people responsible for Duke&#8217;s network, they would have better communication skills &#8212; what they are saying is happening is less unlikely than impossible (unless the iPhone and Cisco&#8217;s routers&#8217; SuperPowers are being boosted by the Earth&#8217;s yellow sun and are no longer hindered by their original design limitations).</p>
<p>Why has this been going on for several days and yet no one has reported the same issue on another network?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s because: It&#8217;s not happening on Duke&#8217;s network, either. It&#8217;s a hack. A scam. A ruse.</p>
<p>By some students who can probably be identified by a duct-taped WiFi canon made from a couple of Pringles cans protruding from their backpacks.</p>
<p>The &#8216;reporter&#8217; should be ashamed for not doing his homework.</p>
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		<title>By: harun</title>
		<link>http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/18/iphone-can-kill-your-wi-fi-network/comment-page-1/#comment-20014</link>
		<dc:creator>harun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nasıl beğendinizmi</description>
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		<title>By: harun</title>
		<link>http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/18/iphone-can-kill-your-wi-fi-network/comment-page-1/#comment-20013</link>
		<dc:creator>harun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>şafalğ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>şafalğ</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Mendez</title>
		<link>http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/18/iphone-can-kill-your-wi-fi-network/comment-page-1/#comment-19996</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Mendez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article was simply meant to summarize the problem for the readers, not to get into the details of the whole matter. The details indicate that most likely not ALL iPhones are involved in the problem and only a handful of them are involved. Regardless, the IT group at Duke (the &quot;experts&quot;) name the iPhone as the #1 suspect. And if the network needs to be optimized for one non-standard device, it&#039;s not the network&#039;s fault. It&#039;s the device&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article was simply meant to summarize the problem for the readers, not to get into the details of the whole matter. The details indicate that most likely not ALL iPhones are involved in the problem and only a handful of them are involved. Regardless, the IT group at Duke (the &#8220;experts&#8221;) name the iPhone as the #1 suspect. And if the network needs to be optimized for one non-standard device, it&#8217;s not the network&#8217;s fault. It&#8217;s the device&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: dave matsuoka</title>
		<link>http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/18/iphone-can-kill-your-wi-fi-network/comment-page-1/#comment-19981</link>
		<dc:creator>dave matsuoka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 06:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just irresponsible reporting/blogging. Pls do a lil bit of research first. There is no root cause for this problem yet and they are still working on figuring out who&#039;s responsible. According to experts, its most probably the configuration of the cisco router thats not done right or hasn&#039;t been optimized for the iphone. This problem hasn&#039;t been heard of anywhere else. Wonder why ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just irresponsible reporting/blogging. Pls do a lil bit of research first. There is no root cause for this problem yet and they are still working on figuring out who&#8217;s responsible. According to experts, its most probably the configuration of the cisco router thats not done right or hasn&#8217;t been optimized for the iphone. This problem hasn&#8217;t been heard of anywhere else. Wonder why ?</p>
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