Comments on: Wikipedia founder plans search engine to rival nothing http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/28/wikipedia-founder-plans-search-engine-to-rival-nothing/ Top Technology news Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:30:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: David Hill http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/28/wikipedia-founder-plans-search-engine-to-rival-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-21249 David Hill Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:19:49 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/28/wikipedia-founder-plans-search-engine-to-rival-nothing/#comment-21249 Up to 12 months ago we financially contributed funds to Wikipedia but no more, for we thought that it was a good idea and where its thinking was in unison with our own at that time - using knowledge for the good of humankind. When we as novices tried to place our Swiss charity within Wikipedia we were absolutely savaged by the editors. They in fact blocked our right of reply, which is documented by themselves. Thereafter we even sent our registration documents via email to the then executive director of Wikimedia, the holding organization, to prove that our international group was registered as a Swiss charity. He did nothing at all. A few months later he resigned with another top Wikimedia executive, 'Jimbo's second in command. The greatest problem with Wikipedia that we now find is that they are highly selective in who should place information and where therefore they will never really have a web-based encyclopaedia that is unbiased and totally factual. It is totally at the whims of the few enlightened ones who control what should be a great reference. Unfortunately we now see that it is not. For anyone interested further on how Wikipedia editors work, the full account including all emails is now posted on our website within our scientific discovery newsletter - http://www.thewif.org.uk/version2/nlett/class/main0.html. Overall, it is time we feel that Wikipedia looked internally at itself and that they concluded that they have major problems with the way they treat new entrants. This analysis should especially be directed towards the attitude of their editors, who remove the right of reply and delete super-quick for reasons not based on evidence but only on hearsay. By the way also, the Wikipedian Editor Zoe who first blocked us and the initial instigator of all the basic trouble, fell out with 'Jimbo' and where she as well left a few months later. Apparently she had made a vendetta against a certain professor according to 'Jimbo's' opinion. Thereafter she took her bat and ball homey and has never been seen since. I believe she also threatened the embattled professor at the time - the web link is http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:dUfUXyA24wwJ:www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Zoe+zoe+wikipedia+professor+change+wikipedia&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk. Dr. David Hill Chief Executive World Innovation Foundation Charity Bern, Switzerland (reg. no. CH-035.7.035.277-9 - 11th July 2005) Up to 12 months ago we financially contributed funds to Wikipedia but no more, for we thought that it was a good idea and where its thinking was in unison with our own at that time – using knowledge for the good of humankind. When we as novices tried to place our Swiss charity within Wikipedia we were absolutely savaged by the editors. They in fact blocked our right of reply, which is documented by themselves.
Thereafter we even sent our registration documents via email to the then executive director of Wikimedia, the holding organization, to prove that our international group was registered as a Swiss charity. He did nothing at all. A few months later he resigned with another top Wikimedia executive, ‘Jimbo’s second in command. The greatest problem with Wikipedia that we now find is that they are highly selective in who should place information and where therefore they will never really have a web-based encyclopaedia that is unbiased and totally factual. It is totally at the whims of the few enlightened ones who control what should be a great reference. Unfortunately we now see that it is not.

For anyone interested further on how Wikipedia editors work, the full account including all emails is now posted on our website within our scientific discovery newsletter – http://www.thewif.org.uk/version2/nlett/class/main0.html. Overall, it is time we feel that Wikipedia looked internally at itself and that they concluded that they have major problems with the way they treat new entrants. This analysis should especially be directed towards the attitude of their editors, who remove the right of reply and delete super-quick for reasons not based on evidence but only on hearsay. By the way also, the Wikipedian Editor Zoe who first blocked us and the initial instigator of all the basic trouble, fell out with ‘Jimbo’ and where she as well left a few months later. Apparently she had made a vendetta against a certain professor according to ‘Jimbo’s’ opinion. Thereafter she took her bat and ball homey and has never been seen since. I believe she also threatened the embattled professor at the time – the web link is http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:dUfUXyA24wwJ:www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Zoe+zoe+wikipedia+professor+change+wikipedia&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk.

Dr. David Hill
Chief Executive
World Innovation Foundation Charity
Bern, Switzerland
(reg. no. CH-035.7.035.277-9 – 11th July 2005)

]]> By: Jimmy Wales http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/28/wikipedia-founder-plans-search-engine-to-rival-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-21120 Jimmy Wales Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:41:14 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/07/28/wikipedia-founder-plans-search-engine-to-rival-nothing/#comment-21120 Uh, what are you talking about? You lost me. The plan is exactly the same as always. "Just as Wikipedia is by the people, for the people, Wikia Search was also supposed to be user driven. The people who use the system were supposed to determine which pages were good, and which were not. Wales prided himself, at the time, on the fact that his search engine would not be driven by a heartless computer. It was a brilliant idea, it was simple, and it was supposed to follow in the true wiki way." Nothing has changed about that. Nothing. Where did you get any idea otherwise? Please, I am easy to reach. Just contact me before posting in error. :) I am here to answer questions. Uh, what are you talking about? You lost me.

The plan is exactly the same as always.

“Just as Wikipedia is by the people, for the people, Wikia Search was also supposed to be user driven. The people who use the system were supposed to determine which pages were good, and which were not. Wales prided himself, at the time, on the fact that his search engine would not be driven by a heartless computer. It was a brilliant idea, it was simple, and it was supposed to follow in the true wiki way.”

Nothing has changed about that. Nothing. Where did you get any idea otherwise?

Please, I am easy to reach. Just contact me before posting in error. :) I am here to answer questions.

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