Comments on: 5 Reasons the iPod Touch cannot replace a Palm http://tech.blorge.com/Structure: /2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/ Technology news Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:15:02 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Joe Sax http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-203007 Joe Sax Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:37:03 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure: /2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/#comment-203007 Palm is stuck in the year 2000. I love Palm, i've had the Palm IIIx, then the Sony Clie Nx, then the Clie NZ90, then the Palm TX. (I've already changed my palm TX screen once. These plastic screens don't last.) The problem is that in every new Palm OS incarnation i never saw any kind of huge development. Colour screen, yeah, right. Bluetooth, fantastic. But everything was always the same: Memo, Contacts, Calendar. Same fonts, same layout. Of course that there were some good improvements, but certainly, in ten years i hoped that Palm would be the greatest thing on earth. But it isn't. Even Graffitti they managed to ruin it, going from simple and quick to complex and cumbersome. Now they announce the Palm Pre, and it looks great, but i feel sorry for Palm, because that is the kind of thing they should have made three years ago. They were going somewhere with Sony and their Clie models and they dropped everything to pursue a lame cellphone design (the Treo) The problem is, the Pre looks good, fantastically good. But in the meantime, Apple has made iPhone and iPod two very strong products. There are tons of apps for apple devices, and Palm is still stuck with blocky graphics and no multitasking abilities. My daughter's Nintendo Dsi has better graphics and touch response, and i got it for less than i got the TX. So, i'm pretty sure that when the time comes that i need a replacement for my TX, i'm going to get me a flashy ipod touch instead of the Palm Pre. I'm sorry, Palm. It was good while it lasted, but now the magic is gone. It's not you, it's me. Believe me. Palm is stuck in the year 2000.

I love Palm, i’ve had the Palm IIIx, then the Sony Clie Nx, then the Clie NZ90, then the Palm TX.
(I’ve already changed my palm TX screen once. These plastic screens don’t last.)

The problem is that in every new Palm OS incarnation i never saw any kind of huge development. Colour screen, yeah, right. Bluetooth, fantastic. But everything was always the same: Memo, Contacts, Calendar. Same fonts, same layout. Of course that there were some good improvements, but certainly, in ten years i hoped that Palm would be the greatest thing on earth. But it isn’t. Even Graffitti they managed to ruin it, going from simple and quick to complex and cumbersome.

Now they announce the Palm Pre, and it looks great, but i feel sorry for Palm, because that is the kind of thing they should have made three years ago. They were going somewhere with Sony and their Clie models and they dropped everything to pursue a lame cellphone design (the Treo)

The problem is, the Pre looks good, fantastically good. But in the meantime, Apple has made iPhone and iPod two very strong products. There are tons of apps for apple devices, and Palm is still stuck with blocky graphics and no multitasking abilities.

My daughter’s Nintendo Dsi has better graphics and touch response, and i got it for less than i got the TX.

So, i’m pretty sure that when the time comes that i need a replacement for my TX, i’m going to get me a flashy ipod touch instead of the Palm Pre.

I’m sorry, Palm. It was good while it lasted, but now the magic is gone. It’s not you, it’s me. Believe me.

]]> By: Peter Stocker http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-196018 Peter Stocker Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:58:30 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure: /2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/#comment-196018 All this information and reasons are no longer up to date if you have a gen 2 ipod touch with OS 3. You have bluetooth, better web access, free phone applications with skype or truphone, note sync to your mail program as reminders, and nice additions: -external wireless USB program that prints, shares and emails files -documents to go Word that is. Excel will be a free update soon, or use Mobile Office flashlight compass map and google Earth (when in wifi -- just go in front of starbucks or in front of an apartnment -offline web reader which downloads to device VNC level superb and fun games internet radio weather podcasts and video and more (50,000 apps) As a former palm user I'm not looking back. All this information and reasons are no longer up to date if you have a gen 2 ipod touch with OS 3. You have bluetooth, better web access, free phone applications with skype or truphone, note sync to your mail program as reminders, and nice additions:

-external wireless USB program that prints, shares and emails files

-documents to go Word that is. Excel will be a free update soon, or use Mobile Office

flashlight

compass

map and google Earth (when in wifi — just go in front of starbucks or in front of an apartnment

-offline web reader which downloads to device

VNC

level

superb and fun games

internet radio

weather

podcasts and video and more (50,000 apps)

As a former palm user I’m not looking back.

]]> By: Rose L http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-170968 Rose L Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:01:26 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure: /2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/#comment-170968 what about Notes synchronisation? I tested the iPod Touch and I could not see where you could do a general search in all apps which I love. I could only see that you could scroll through contacts but not search. Sometimes I remember part of a name and search on first name or first letters or company. I have been using Palm for over ten years and although I am very open to the iPod Touch, it must be function over fun so for now, the Palm. what about Notes synchronisation? I tested the iPod Touch and I could not see where you could do a general search in all apps which I love. I could only see that you could scroll through contacts but not search. Sometimes I remember part of a name and search on first name or first letters or company.

I have been using Palm for over ten years and although I am very open to the iPod Touch, it must be function over fun so for now, the Palm.

]]> By: Bojan http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-164082 Bojan Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:05:39 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure: /2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/#comment-164082 Well I guess it's game over for the Palm TX now (E2 is obviously a non-competitor as well). iPod Touch / iPhone are open to 3rd party apps and have an incredible number of useful applications now. External audio is now here on the 2G. 8GB (the minimum) is plenty of space, plus swapping SDs is a real pain. There are a number of excellent styli for the Apple products. I guess the only thing that is missing is Bluetooth but aside from letting you cause your phone to dial a number from the Palm contact list, it's pretty much useless on the Palm anyway so I'll live without it. And let's not even start on all the reasons that the iPod touch destroys the TX. Don't get me wrong here - I am in no way an Apple "fanboy" and I really believe Palm products were very strong in the past. In fact, I had a Tungsten E (which died suddenly, but I don't feel I need to bring up Palm product lifetime issues here) a while ago. Since then, I entertained the idea of buying a TX many times but never thought the price was quite worth it. Now things are clear - it's not. The 8GB Touch is cheaper and better in almost every respect. I am very, very happy with mine (and no, it doesn't have any music, videos, or pictures on it yet - I use it purely as a productivity device). Palm needs to do something soon or risk losing the handheld (non-smartphone) market forever. Only one question is left: Why is the TX still priced so high? Well I guess it’s game over for the Palm TX now (E2 is obviously a non-competitor as well). iPod Touch / iPhone are open to 3rd party apps and have an incredible number of useful applications now. External audio is now here on the 2G. 8GB (the minimum) is plenty of space, plus swapping SDs is a real pain. There are a number of excellent styli for the Apple products. I guess the only thing that is missing is Bluetooth but aside from letting you cause your phone to dial a number from the Palm contact list, it’s pretty much useless on the Palm anyway so I’ll live without it.

And let’s not even start on all the reasons that the iPod touch destroys the TX.

Don’t get me wrong here – I am in no way an Apple “fanboy” and I really believe Palm products were very strong in the past. In fact, I had a Tungsten E (which died suddenly, but I don’t feel I need to bring up Palm product lifetime issues here) a while ago. Since then, I entertained the idea of buying a TX many times but never thought the price was quite worth it. Now things are clear – it’s not. The 8GB Touch is cheaper and better in almost every respect. I am very, very happy with mine (and no, it doesn’t have any music, videos, or pictures on it yet – I use it purely as a productivity device).

Palm needs to do something soon or risk losing the handheld (non-smartphone) market forever. Only one question is left: Why is the TX still priced so high?

]]> By: La Primavera http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-157499 La Primavera Mon, 02 Feb 2009 03:07:51 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure: /2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/#comment-157499 Well, I read this post before making the switch and decided that much of it was based on opinions of those who had not used both products. I had a Palm TX for two years, and a series of others before that, using it mostly for business: e-mail, calendar, contacts. I have had the ipod Touch for about six months now, and here is what I think: Making the switch was easy. Palm was synced with computer, therefore syncing computer with ipod brought over all the information, except a few applications that I had to export and import manually. The first thing I notice is the bulk of the ipod is much less... its great to be able to just slip it in my shirt pocket without it bulging out. The, when I turn it on the graphics are a million times nicer than the Palm... no doubt. Slick interface with nice scrolling and clearer internet browsing including nifty zoom and automatic orientation. The contacts does pretty much the same thing as palm... just looks a bit nicer. You cannot categorise the contacts though... but easy to scroll and search. The calendar looks nicer, but does the same thing as Palm. You can have more than one calendar and choose which ones to sync. Mail is nicer in ipod as it has a bigger keyboard (when you use a third party layout app), and it has "push" with Exchange and POP... very slick and dependable with built-ind ability to read most types of attachments (but not edit). Syncing is the same type of thing as with Palm, except for music, which is much easier in itunes. The keyboard tooka bit of getting used to, but is much more accurate than grafitti and easier than the Palm keyboard... I can no two-and it and can type quite quickly. So all of these functions, I give better ratings to the ipod. Here's what I don't like: To Do is not built in and does not really have a satisfactory app. Toodle Do is the best I can find, which automatically syncs with Outlook and the Mac Widget. I don't really like the ipod app, but it works. At the time of writing there is still no app that syncs Notes on ipod with the desktop... this is just ridiculous. Then there is the fingerprint issue, which makes the screen a mess becasue you touch the screen with your finger rather than a stylus. While I like the way this works better, the smudges are bad. I got a smudge-free screen protector which has solved that problem. But then again, there are thousands of apps out there, many for free or cheap, which seem far more useful than any of the Palm programs I ever found... they are easy to find, download, and buy from the itunes store. The options with the ipod are seemingly limitless... just take a look at the itunes store at all the apps you can get... so, after using both devices, I can say that I do not miss the TX at all... the ipod is a far better device for my needs and syncs well with both my mac and PC. Good luck! Well, I read this post before making the switch and decided that much of it was based on opinions of those who had not used both products. I had a Palm TX for two years, and a series of others before that, using it mostly for business: e-mail, calendar, contacts. I have had the ipod Touch for about six months now, and here is what I think: Making the switch was easy. Palm was synced with computer, therefore syncing computer with ipod brought over all the information, except a few applications that I had to export and import manually. The first thing I notice is the bulk of the ipod is much less… its great to be able to just slip it in my shirt pocket without it bulging out. The, when I turn it on the graphics are a million times nicer than the Palm… no doubt. Slick interface with nice scrolling and clearer internet browsing including nifty zoom and automatic orientation. The contacts does pretty much the same thing as palm… just looks a bit nicer. You cannot categorise the contacts though… but easy to scroll and search. The calendar looks nicer, but does the same thing as Palm. You can have more than one calendar and choose which ones to sync. Mail is nicer in ipod as it has a bigger keyboard (when you use a third party layout app), and it has “push” with Exchange and POP… very slick and dependable with built-ind ability to read most types of attachments (but not edit). Syncing is the same type of thing as with Palm, except for music, which is much easier in itunes. The keyboard tooka bit of getting used to, but is much more accurate than grafitti and easier than the Palm keyboard… I can no two-and it and can type quite quickly. So all of these functions, I give better ratings to the ipod. Here’s what I don’t like: To Do is not built in and does not really have a satisfactory app. Toodle Do is the best I can find, which automatically syncs with Outlook and the Mac Widget. I don’t really like the ipod app, but it works. At the time of writing there is still no app that syncs Notes on ipod with the desktop… this is just ridiculous. Then there is the fingerprint issue, which makes the screen a mess becasue you touch the screen with your finger rather than a stylus. While I like the way this works better, the smudges are bad. I got a smudge-free screen protector which has solved that problem. But then again, there are thousands of apps out there, many for free or cheap, which seem far more useful than any of the Palm programs I ever found… they are easy to find, download, and buy from the itunes store. The options with the ipod are seemingly limitless… just take a look at the itunes store at all the apps you can get… so, after using both devices, I can say that I do not miss the TX at all… the ipod is a far better device for my needs and syncs well with both my mac and PC. Good luck!

]]> By: Donna http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-155618 Donna Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:30:48 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure: /2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/#comment-155618 I'd still be a TX user except for three (count them, three!!!) replacement TX's and the same digitizer problem makes my $250+ TX unuseable!!! Palm offered me a new (vs refurmished) replacement, but added that the new TX would not be warrantied. If that is not an admission of failure, I don't know what is. Sure the iPod touch is not a TX. but sadly, neither is the TX..... I’d still be a TX user except for three (count them, three!!!) replacement TX’s and the same digitizer problem makes my $250+ TX unuseable!!! Palm offered me a new (vs refurmished) replacement, but added that the new TX would not be warrantied. If that is not an admission of failure, I don’t know what is.

Sure the iPod touch is not a TX. but sadly, neither is the TX…..

]]> By: Lee http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-105499 Lee Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:29:19 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure: /2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/#comment-105499 I have used a Palm for over 10 years. I picked up a Zire about 2 years ago after my previous palm broke when I dropped it. New features that I didn't need were added and existing features were compromised. I noticed that it was near impossible to use the stylus to input letters in the writing recognition box and had to resort to using the tiny keyboard. That was an un-welcomed change. I think the new OS also used more memory so now I've overloaded the thing and it has locked up. It won't even re-sync. I'm thinking of getting an iTouch because I own an iMac. Does anyone know if there is a conversion program to transfer all of my "junk" from my Palm to an iTouch? I have used a Palm for over 10 years. I picked up a Zire about 2 years ago after my previous palm broke when I dropped it. New features that I didn’t need were added and existing features were compromised. I noticed that it was near impossible to use the stylus to input letters in the writing recognition box and had to resort to using the tiny keyboard. That was an un-welcomed change. I think the new OS also used more memory so now I’ve overloaded the thing and it has locked up. It won’t even re-sync. I’m thinking of getting an iTouch because I own an iMac. Does anyone know if there is a conversion program to transfer all of my “junk” from my Palm to an iTouch?

]]> By: El Gordo http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-102497 El Gordo Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:00:40 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure: /2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/#comment-102497 I have both a TX and an 8 gig ipod touch... they're both great! The TX I use for the office or at conferences and the ipod for entertainment and fun! Both are good for web browsing, e mail, movies and music. So, be patient, PALM didn't have third party programs right out the chute...ipod third party programs are only going to grow and get better with time. Hey, my ipod just received an e mail from my TX. What does it say? It says, "Get a life nerd!" I have both a TX and an 8 gig ipod touch… they’re both great! The TX I use for the office or at conferences and the ipod for entertainment and fun! Both are good for web browsing, e mail, movies and music. So, be patient, PALM didn’t have third party programs right out the chute…ipod third party programs are only going to grow and get better with time.

Hey, my ipod just received an e mail from my TX. What does it say? It says, “Get a life nerd!”

]]> By: pedro http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-96486 pedro Thu, 29 May 2008 18:54:22 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure: /2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/#comment-96486 I need to know, is the ipod touch able to: 1 - Browse and open files from computers (with windows) in a wireless network 2 - ssh to a linux server or access to a remote desktop 3 - be used as an ordinary pendrive to transfer and access all files (even my music) without apple's software or any driver 4 - in case of emergency or lack of software, can i install a dual boot linux? 5 - connect to bluetooth headphones 6 - disable upgrades or reverse them in case you don't like them (What if apple thing that a program must expire, can it be done?) Thanks!!!! (i really like the ipod but i'm not sure if buying one, looks a bit limited) I need to know, is the ipod touch able to:

1 – Browse and open files from computers (with windows) in a wireless network
2 – ssh to a linux server or access to a remote desktop
3 – be used as an ordinary pendrive to transfer and access all files (even my music) without apple’s software or any driver
4 – in case of emergency or lack of software, can i install a dual boot linux?
5 – connect to bluetooth headphones
6 – disable upgrades or reverse them in case you don’t like them (What if apple thing that a program must expire, can it be done?)

Thanks!!!! (i really like the ipod but i’m not sure if buying one, looks a bit limited)

]]> By: Theo http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/comment-page-1/#comment-89595 Theo Sun, 11 May 2008 20:39:38 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure: /2007/09/10/5-reasons-the-ipod-touch-cannot-replace-a-palm/#comment-89595 say what ever you want but if i was to buy a plam tx or a touch i would get a touch. I have a palm tx and it crashes alot, sms appication can not be oppened anymore, bluetooth has become total usless... and expension card is crap too as you can't put in the new sd format. Also the palm os system is a joke, they should really do something about that. I mean it cant even download something while browsing on the net. Palms reputation has reached junk say what ever you want but if i was to buy a plam tx or a touch i would get a touch. I have a palm tx and it crashes alot, sms appication can not be oppened anymore, bluetooth has become total usless… and expension card is crap too as you can’t put in the new sd format. Also the palm os system is a joke, they should really do something about that. I mean it cant even download something while browsing on the net.

Palms reputation has reached junk

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