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	<title>Comments on: Apple&#8217;s OS X Leopard sets torrent world on fire, pirates rejoice</title>
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		<title>By: acc</title>
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		<dc:creator>acc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point in my last paragraph, by the way, is that if you want free, you&#039;ve got free.

But the fact that Apple is building proprietary extensions on top of open source does not deprive those projects of anything.  No theft is involved when copying bits.  Furthermore, Apple is certainly not filing off copyrights or otherwise claiming the software as their own invention.  So where&#039;s the crime?

To the contrary, they&#039;re rather loudly and proudly stating that they are *using* open source.  As a result, 1) many of those familiar with open source bought Macs and 2) it shed light on the fact that such software exists for those that weren&#039;t aware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point in my last paragraph, by the way, is that if you want free, you&#8217;ve got free.</p>
<p>But the fact that Apple is building proprietary extensions on top of open source does not deprive those projects of anything.  No theft is involved when copying bits.  Furthermore, Apple is certainly not filing off copyrights or otherwise claiming the software as their own invention.  So where&#8217;s the crime?</p>
<p>To the contrary, they&#8217;re rather loudly and proudly stating that they are *using* open source.  As a result, 1) many of those familiar with open source bought Macs and 2) it shed light on the fact that such software exists for those that weren&#8217;t aware.</p>
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		<title>By: acc</title>
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		<dc:creator>acc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 07:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe:

You might want to consider reading the GNU and BSD licenses carefully and re-think your statement.  There&#039;s nothing in *either* license that forbids selling distributions of the software.  Do companies like Sun, Red Hat, Novell, Ubuntu, and PC-BSD (to name a few) make you &quot;want to throw up?&quot;

FreeBSD and Debian Linux are just a couple of examples (out of literally hundreds) of completely free (as in beer) distributions of software that have been running strong for well over 10 years each, and it seems quite likely that those projects are still going to be producing open source software for at least another 10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe:</p>
<p>You might want to consider reading the GNU and BSD licenses carefully and re-think your statement.  There&#8217;s nothing in *either* license that forbids selling distributions of the software.  Do companies like Sun, Red Hat, Novell, Ubuntu, and PC-BSD (to name a few) make you &#8220;want to throw up?&#8221;</p>
<p>FreeBSD and Debian Linux are just a couple of examples (out of literally hundreds) of completely free (as in beer) distributions of software that have been running strong for well over 10 years each, and it seems quite likely that those projects are still going to be producing open source software for at least another 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple doesnt deserve anyone&#039;s respect. They use free software, paint it shiny and sell it. If you want an up-to-date system you have to pay. If you want to run it on your computer, you cant, you need to buy Their computer, which of course they also over-price.

Nah honestly i dont have any respect for them. In fact they make me want to throw up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple doesnt deserve anyone&#8217;s respect. They use free software, paint it shiny and sell it. If you want an up-to-date system you have to pay. If you want to run it on your computer, you cant, you need to buy Their computer, which of course they also over-price.</p>
<p>Nah honestly i dont have any respect for them. In fact they make me want to throw up.</p>
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		<title>By: Spharion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spharion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No matter what your definition of fair use is, owning and using a pre-release copy of a proprietary operating system isn’t fair game.&quot;

Sure it is fair game. Check some Linux philosophy:


“Don&#039;t programmers deserve a reward for their creativity?”

If anything deserves a reward, it is social contribution. Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far as society is free to use the results. If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs.

“Won&#039;t programmers starve?”

I could answer that nobody is forced to be a programmer. Most of us cannot manage to get any money for standing on the street and making faces. But we are not, as a result, condemned to spend our lives standing on the street making faces, and starving. We do something else.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No matter what your definition of fair use is, owning and using a pre-release copy of a proprietary operating system isn’t fair game.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure it is fair game. Check some Linux philosophy:</p>
<p>“Don&#8217;t programmers deserve a reward for their creativity?”</p>
<p>If anything deserves a reward, it is social contribution. Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far as society is free to use the results. If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs.</p>
<p>“Won&#8217;t programmers starve?”</p>
<p>I could answer that nobody is forced to be a programmer. Most of us cannot manage to get any money for standing on the street and making faces. But we are not, as a result, condemned to spend our lives standing on the street making faces, and starving. We do something else.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 05:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, &quot;DUH!&quot; simply isn&#039;t enough to cover this obtuseness of this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, &#8220;DUH!&#8221; simply isn&#8217;t enough to cover this obtuseness of this article.</p>
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