Comments on: Sony CEO Stringer talks Blu-ray Vs HD-DVD – PS3 still best option

By: tgh

tgh — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:27:10 +0000

You all forget one important point coming from a wise man. I am sure everyone has paid the top dollars for there technology & we are sick of getting sucked in to pay more. You all get deceived by prettier picture Blue-ray or HD-DVD. The question you have to ask yourself is, when will you be satisfied with picture & sound. I don’t have Blue-ray or HD-DVD, I am happy enough with DVD & computer video files using TV Out. I will let all those suckers go out & pay the top dollar, while i watch the same thing being happy enough because i have drawn the line with picture & sound. Now when everything is nice & cheap like how DVD’S are now, than i spend $50au for a payer. If Microsoft or Sony think i am going to pay $5000AU for a better tv, cables, a new player & a new library of films than they are joking. I would consider a new TV middle of next year because i think they be a good price. I have spent too many thousands of dollars to start all over again, to watch the same thing with a different paint.

By: j6p

j6p — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:11:20 +0000

It’s funny when blu-ray fanbois step in and assume we “didn’t do our research”. Well guys we did. The movies I wanted were on HD-DVD first (matrix, fast and furious), the specs were already finalized, and we wanted a player-only system, NOT a game machine. Most of all, I wanted it to be affordable. Do you understand that? AFFORDABLE. If blu-ray were the one at $99.00, make no mistake, I would consider it. But it isn’t, so there.

Not everyone can afford $399.00. Do you guys even HAVE families to consider? Fact is, I can buy 2 HD-DVD players for the price of 1 PS3.
Are you telling us we should pay twice as much for the same thing? Do these blu-ray fanbois also work at Amway? (Quixtar) cuz they do the same thing to brainwash people. Price IS important, and ultimately that WILL determine the outcome. More standalone players in homes = more potential to sell more movies and that’s a fact, no matter what color it is.

HD-DVD, the picture is EXACTLY the same as blu-ray. The sound is EXACTLY the same. Please don’t force your fanboism on us. I’m a father and price IS a big factor to us. We HD-DVD owners don’t go round dissing people with PS3 because they bought it.

By: The future is Blu

The future is Blu — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:54:48 +0000

I’ve already given u proof about how the HD-DVD promotion group used mis-leading figures by telling the blu-ray associations they shouldn’t use ps3 in their statistics which they agreed to and then hd-dvd promotions used the ps3 in their figures of attach rates, which is very wrong and misleading the consumer, i can’t spell it out clearer.
Still u don’t use facts at all, i’ve seen confidence from Sony, Panasonic, Buena Vista and others with stakes in blu-ray but no spin and lies. Just saying their is spin and lies doesn’t make it true. Use some facts “you are wrong about Toshiba messing up the format war” wow, what a persuasive argument. Still u have not commented on HD-DVD using these misleading figures.

By: Mr migs

Mr migs — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:36:48 +0000

The future is blu, The spin and lies are everywhere if you chose to achknowledge them, and you obviuosly base your opinion on them, All I can say is give me some proof on what you say because I don’t believe you, It’s widley known about Sonys underhand tactics and you are wrong about Toshiba messing up the format war.

By: Mr migs

Mr migs — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:36:26 +0000

The future is blu, The spin and lies are everywhere if you chose to achknowledge them, and you abviuosly base your opinion on them, All I can say is give me some proof on what you say because I don’t believe you, It’s widley known about Sonys underhand tactics and you are wrong about Toshiba messing up the format war.

By: The future is Blu

The future is Blu — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:20:03 +0000

What’s the matter can’t find any examples of the blu-ray association using spins and lies? try coming up with some examples to support ur argument next time Mr Migs. As for ur comments about Stringer I think you’ll rember about a week ago he said the war is in a stalemate, one of the only bits of honesty i’ve seen in this format war. Oh and an pro-HD-DVD rant like ur’s would not be complete without a shout of “sony are corrupt” but i’m guessing u have no problem with Microsoft (who by the way are screwing with Toshiba as the only reason they backed HD-DVD was to prolong the format war, which benefits there downloads and 360) or Toshiba. By the way it was Toshiba who started this mess of a format war, blu-ray was set to become the next format(which is good because it is technically better than hd-dvd) when Toshiba got greedy and decided to split of from the blu-ray group(not Sony blu-ray is part of a group of companies all with stakes in blu-ray like Panasonic). One last point when/if u reply to this i would like to know how you feel about what the HD-DVD promotion group did which was explained in my last post. Oh and Matt u really shouldn’t point out the ps3 is being sold at a massive loss seeing as HD-DVD players are being sold by just as big a loss.

By: Matt

Matt — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:48:38 +0000

It’s been over for a while..: “Guys this fanboy crap has to stop, hd-dvd is dead”

Ironic. This fanboy crap has to stop…but, as soon as you say that, a fanboy comment comes out of your mouth. Very mature.

Lewis: “HD-DVD have to sell their players for almost no profit to have any chance at all of people buying them”

Then you must think bluray is dead. After all, the leading bluray player, the PS3, is being sold at massive losses. You make more, making a little, than by losing a lot.

By: Mr migs

Mr migs — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:30:53 +0000

NO I hate the Blu-ray association with all it’s spin and lies, but then that would hardly be supprising coming from a company as corrupt as Sony, By the way guys, do most of you work for the Blu ray association? anyhow HD DVD movies work and look/sound good, they always get just as good reviews in picture and audio quality…sometimes better, there are no issues with the interactive side unlike Blu-ray as the final spec was finished BEFORE release…pirates of the carribean is just one hiccup in a whole string of problems. So JAVA may be more advanced but I have yet to see it. I’m sorry but I would advise anyone with half a brain to go with HD DVD because the product and consumers have been delt with proffesionally and with respect unlike Blu. It’s pretty clear to me HD DVD does what it said it was going to do and it produces the results well. Howard you can abuse the picture with the clear lead in blu-ray players incorparated in the PS3 but who’s selling tons mores standalone dedicated HD players right now…HD DVD. Oh….And if you have not heard, yet Disney just voted on the 51Gb spec for the increased capacity HD DVD through the DVD forum which was coincidentally bypassed by the Blu-ray involved companies at the begginning of the format war and is the reason we are in this mess now!

By: The future is Blu

The future is Blu — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:36:08 +0000

Does anybody else including HD-DVD owners hate the HD-DVD promotion group?
I mean they first said that the ps3 should not be counted as a blu-ray player in hardware sales, which the blu-ray association agreed to despite the fact that the people who own a ps3 and use blu-ray make up the largest amount of blu-ray owners. Then the HD-DVD promotions group decide to show attach rate figures in which they included the ps3 so they showd bd with 0.7 and hd with 3.3, i mean did they actually think they could get away with that? i mean 0.7? do they expect people to believe that many people who have a blu-ray player that’s not a ps3 have no blu-ray movies? it boggles the mind.

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:10:56 +0000

it’s worth mentioning Valves, Gabe Newell is ex-Microsoft, so we know where his loyalty lies..

As for HD DVD, it’s vastly inferior.

It’s only 30GB vs Blu-ray 50GB.
It’s limited to 30Mbit/sec bandwidth, Blu-ray is 54Mbit/sec

The last figure is important, as it determines maximum bitrate of your movies, and the sampling rate of audio.

Bottom line, is HD DVD has to make sacrifiices to put movies on disc, cutting back picture/audio or both.

Let’s not also forget the crappy interactive support in HD DVD, whilst they were first to market, it’s a very limited scripting language, and vastly inferior to the Blu-Ray Java that will soon ship on Profile 1.1 players, and be updated in the Playstation 3.

If you know anthing, you would avoid HD DVD like the plague, as it’s doomed technically, and studio support-wise.