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	<title>Comments on: Internet piracy could force direct download services past Blu-Ray, HD-DVD war</title>
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		<title>By: DaveBG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW whilst HD DVD now offers 51 gb triple layer discs (and Blu-ray can&#039;t get over 47gb with their supposedly 50gb DL disc - otherwise the fail rates go through the roof) you&#039;re never going to see retail 100gb or 200gb discs.

Stop kidding yourself and quit the day-dreaming.

Neuther the movie or the TV industry want them, and if they don&#039;t bulk buy the retail business will never see feasible pricing on them = ain&#039;t going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW whilst HD DVD now offers 51 gb triple layer discs (and Blu-ray can&#8217;t get over 47gb with their supposedly 50gb DL disc &#8211; otherwise the fail rates go through the roof) you&#8217;re never going to see retail 100gb or 200gb discs.</p>
<p>Stop kidding yourself and quit the day-dreaming.</p>
<p>Neuther the movie or the TV industry want them, and if they don&#8217;t bulk buy the retail business will never see feasible pricing on them = ain&#8217;t going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveBG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just don&#039;t have connections to make retail high def downloading possible right now.
Between slow speeds and capped download limits this is just a pipe-dream many years off for far too many (across all the so-called developed world) .

Blu-ray promote these ideas to bash HD DVD, that&#039;s all.
They are driving ever further up a deadend as they become just another (almost entirely) game console format.

HD DVD meanwhile moves further and further into the mainstream with very low cost players (and more even lower cost brands due very soon, a regular $100 price, not limited season special, is months away)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just don&#8217;t have connections to make retail high def downloading possible right now.<br />
Between slow speeds and capped download limits this is just a pipe-dream many years off for far too many (across all the so-called developed world) .</p>
<p>Blu-ray promote these ideas to bash HD DVD, that&#8217;s all.<br />
They are driving ever further up a deadend as they become just another (almost entirely) game console format.</p>
<p>HD DVD meanwhile moves further and further into the mainstream with very low cost players (and more even lower cost brands due very soon, a regular $100 price, not limited season special, is months away)</p>
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		<title>By: Yong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are people making such a big deal about what Michael Bay had to say about HD format? This robot guy already embarassed himself a month ago. I hope MS would sue him for defecation, so this guy would eventually stop pooping. BTW, my wife and I fell asleep half way through the Transformer.

Now back to downloading, what percentage of out internet service can meet the bandwidth requirement for HD streaming or downloading? Assume the average download speed is around 500kb/s, it would take about 10 hours to download a full length HD movie (20gb). The HD downloading business requires major infrastructure upgrades that are not in sight in another 5-10 years. HD DVD/Blu will survive and eventually become obsolete, just like DVD and VHS. 

This article was just as thoughtless as Bay&#039;s comments. What internet piracy would kill first are DVD and CD, not HD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are people making such a big deal about what Michael Bay had to say about HD format? This robot guy already embarassed himself a month ago. I hope MS would sue him for defecation, so this guy would eventually stop pooping. BTW, my wife and I fell asleep half way through the Transformer.</p>
<p>Now back to downloading, what percentage of out internet service can meet the bandwidth requirement for HD streaming or downloading? Assume the average download speed is around 500kb/s, it would take about 10 hours to download a full length HD movie (20gb). The HD downloading business requires major infrastructure upgrades that are not in sight in another 5-10 years. HD DVD/Blu will survive and eventually become obsolete, just like DVD and VHS. </p>
<p>This article was just as thoughtless as Bay&#8217;s comments. What internet piracy would kill first are DVD and CD, not HD.</p>
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		<title>By: B jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>B jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 08:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry one more Item...

Bill and the rest of the Redmond crew may well be manipulating the market.  Netflix has had a slow start with on demand they blame the content owners.  The founder is always fond of saying something like &#039;there is a reason we called it NET flix and not MAIL flix!&#039;  

Netflix says they cannot make an Apple or Linux client for the watch it now but the have Partnered with MS to use their ??? SilverScreen??? when it is available.  Not long after this the netflix founder joined the MS board. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry one more Item&#8230;</p>
<p>Bill and the rest of the Redmond crew may well be manipulating the market.  Netflix has had a slow start with on demand they blame the content owners.  The founder is always fond of saying something like &#8216;there is a reason we called it NET flix and not MAIL flix!&#8217;  </p>
<p>Netflix says they cannot make an Apple or Linux client for the watch it now but the have Partnered with MS to use their ??? SilverScreen??? when it is available.  Not long after this the netflix founder joined the MS board. . .</p>
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		<title>By: B jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>B jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 08:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your thesis is interesting.  However as an early HD adopter. I looked at then nixed the Apple TV, Cable, and Satellite.  Apple TV is NOT HD not even close.  I hope they add it.  Cable and satellite besides not being fully on demand are too expensive.  Example Comcast: Digital Cable $50 + Fast Inet $50 + HD Plus pack $30 + DVR Rental $20  or nearly $200 per month and when you get tired of paying.. You bought nothing.  And where are you going to put all those downloads if you do &#039;Own Them&#039;  A hard drive?  OK  Lets say you did this just 3 years ago.  Go buy a Dell today and try to get that IDE drive to work in your new SATA system.  You will not be getting your old PCI-E video card to play either Besides the new DRM in Vista which will shut off your HD video on that old &#039;analog hole&#039; card.  There are no PCI E slots to put it in.  

As a person who does not pirate I love my 300+ CD&#039;s I will not buy from ITunes because the quality is not even close to DVD much less the new HD Audio.  For those who can and have a good Sound system watch U2 Rattle and Hum on Blu-Ray! Its awesome, better than being at the concert... If like me you have a 400 watt 7.1 audio system and a 12 foot screen.

No this is nothing like laser disks... I hope.

And I would love to see Download, DRM free, commercial free, HD Content purchases that I could burn to ANY format disk I choose.  I would start tomorrow.  But that is not the future of download content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your thesis is interesting.  However as an early HD adopter. I looked at then nixed the Apple TV, Cable, and Satellite.  Apple TV is NOT HD not even close.  I hope they add it.  Cable and satellite besides not being fully on demand are too expensive.  Example Comcast: Digital Cable $50 + Fast Inet $50 + HD Plus pack $30 + DVR Rental $20  or nearly $200 per month and when you get tired of paying.. You bought nothing.  And where are you going to put all those downloads if you do &#8216;Own Them&#8217;  A hard drive?  OK  Lets say you did this just 3 years ago.  Go buy a Dell today and try to get that IDE drive to work in your new SATA system.  You will not be getting your old PCI-E video card to play either Besides the new DRM in Vista which will shut off your HD video on that old &#8216;analog hole&#8217; card.  There are no PCI E slots to put it in.  </p>
<p>As a person who does not pirate I love my 300+ CD&#8217;s I will not buy from ITunes because the quality is not even close to DVD much less the new HD Audio.  For those who can and have a good Sound system watch U2 Rattle and Hum on Blu-Ray! Its awesome, better than being at the concert&#8230; If like me you have a 400 watt 7.1 audio system and a 12 foot screen.</p>
<p>No this is nothing like laser disks&#8230; I hope.</p>
<p>And I would love to see Download, DRM free, commercial free, HD Content purchases that I could burn to ANY format disk I choose.  I would start tomorrow.  But that is not the future of download content.</p>
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