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	<title>Comments on: eBay debating whether to make PayPal compulsory for all customers</title>
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		<title>By: The Big M</title>
		<link>http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2008/05/11/ebay-debating-whether-to-make-paypal-compulsory-for-all-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-93389</link>
		<dc:creator>The Big M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 11:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ebay has indeed received immunity from ASIC (because they informed ASIC of their intentions) &quot;

No, it hasn&#039;t. 

For one thing, it has nothing to do with ASIC - that&#039;s a completely different entity who have nothing to do with the issue! As said in my post that you tried to argue, the relevant authority is the ACCC.

Secondly, there&#039;s no immunity, even with your attempt at qualifying &quot;the period the proposal is under review&quot;. In fact, they haven&#039;t even applied the full restriction which is suggested by your claim of being &quot;immune&quot;. What they have done is lodge a _notification_ of what they intend to do, which is to breach current TPA laws.

If you&#039;re going to make claims, and try to debate, maybe you should do some research in future...! 

With the claims being made, if anything it looks like it&#039;d be _easier_ in the States to get this past. There&#039;s already a greater acceptance of Paypal there than there is in the Australian terrirtory, which is one of the reasons ebay are keen to roll it out in Australia, to get a bigger share of the action as they have elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ebay has indeed received immunity from ASIC (because they informed ASIC of their intentions) &#8221;</p>
<p>No, it hasn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>For one thing, it has nothing to do with ASIC &#8211; that&#8217;s a completely different entity who have nothing to do with the issue! As said in my post that you tried to argue, the relevant authority is the ACCC.</p>
<p>Secondly, there&#8217;s no immunity, even with your attempt at qualifying &#8220;the period the proposal is under review&#8221;. In fact, they haven&#8217;t even applied the full restriction which is suggested by your claim of being &#8220;immune&#8221;. What they have done is lodge a _notification_ of what they intend to do, which is to breach current TPA laws.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to make claims, and try to debate, maybe you should do some research in future&#8230;! </p>
<p>With the claims being made, if anything it looks like it&#8217;d be _easier_ in the States to get this past. There&#8217;s already a greater acceptance of Paypal there than there is in the Australian terrirtory, which is one of the reasons ebay are keen to roll it out in Australia, to get a bigger share of the action as they have elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 04:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ebay has indeed received immunity from ASIC (because they informed ASIC of their intentions) for the period that their proposal is under review. My personal opinion is that ASIC should slap them with a billion dollar anti-trust fine, but I doubt ASIC has the authority or guts to hand out this sort of fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ebay has indeed received immunity from ASIC (because they informed ASIC of their intentions) for the period that their proposal is under review. My personal opinion is that ASIC should slap them with a billion dollar anti-trust fine, but I doubt ASIC has the authority or guts to hand out this sort of fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 11:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australians should try OZtion:
http://www.oztion.com.au/
It&#039;s free to list, and you don&#039;t have to use PayPal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australians should try OZtion:<br />
<a href="http://www.oztion.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oztion.com.au/</a><br />
It&#8217;s free to list, and you don&#8217;t have to use PayPal.</p>
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		<title>By: The Big M</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Big M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 11:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In Australia, eBay has applied for, and received immunity from the anti-monopoly Trade Practices Act, but I can’t see it being so easy if they try it in the States itself, or European countries.&quot;

No, it hasn&#039;t.

They had to apply but the process is still underway. So far, submissions have been called and closed with heavy hitting responses from the ABA, RBA and major banks amongst others. Ebay now has a chance to respond and then the ACCC will make a decision. A long way off immunity being granted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In Australia, eBay has applied for, and received immunity from the anti-monopoly Trade Practices Act, but I can’t see it being so easy if they try it in the States itself, or European countries.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, it hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>They had to apply but the process is still underway. So far, submissions have been called and closed with heavy hitting responses from the ABA, RBA and major banks amongst others. Ebay now has a chance to respond and then the ACCC will make a decision. A long way off immunity being granted.</p>
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		<title>By: Fractalzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fractalzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 22:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PayPal sux sht thru a straw.</description>
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		<title>By: Susan Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eBay&#039;s requirement that payments be either cash or PayPal will also limit its growth from here on out.

eBay has the potential to be the B2B and B2C showcase for small exporters worldwide.  

But PayPal has a limit of $10,000 per international transaction, so for big ticket items it can handle the deposit. 

After that eBay&#039;s avoidance of even mentioning that international commercial banks have been successfully using escrow accounts for hundreds of years to facilitate exports, is very puzzling. 

Documentary Letters of Credit are far more secure for both buyers and sellers -- and they work domestically as well as internationally -- and can transfer unlimited amounts of money.

Ah well, I guess eBay just wants to sell small stuff.   Someone else will have to help the B2B and B2C crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eBay&#8217;s requirement that payments be either cash or PayPal will also limit its growth from here on out.</p>
<p>eBay has the potential to be the B2B and B2C showcase for small exporters worldwide.  </p>
<p>But PayPal has a limit of $10,000 per international transaction, so for big ticket items it can handle the deposit. </p>
<p>After that eBay&#8217;s avoidance of even mentioning that international commercial banks have been successfully using escrow accounts for hundreds of years to facilitate exports, is very puzzling. </p>
<p>Documentary Letters of Credit are far more secure for both buyers and sellers &#8212; and they work domestically as well as internationally &#8212; and can transfer unlimited amounts of money.</p>
<p>Ah well, I guess eBay just wants to sell small stuff.   Someone else will have to help the B2B and B2C crowd.</p>
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