Comments on: Look out Chevy Volt, AFS Trinity has a 150 mpg SUV http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2008/05/24/look-out-chevy-volt-afs-trinity-has-a-150-mpg-suv/ Top Technology news Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:30:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ken Grubb http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2008/05/24/look-out-chevy-volt-afs-trinity-has-a-150-mpg-suv/comment-page-1/#comment-96442 Ken Grubb Thu, 29 May 2008 16:21:01 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2008/05/24/look-out-chevy-volt-afs-trinity-has-a-150-mpg-suv/#comment-96442 It is interesting. The Volt is still a work in progress, while the AFS Trinity prototypes really exist and have been shown off to members of Congress and the media. Check out the videos on the AFS website to see for yourself. It's a PHEV-40, so 40 miles of electric only driving up to 86 MPH. If the Volt comes at least close to GM promises, then it will be quite extraordinary. The AFS use of ultracaps and parallel hybrid technology makes it incredibly exciting. Since both use Li-ion batteries, durability should be about the same. I see the GM PR machine is hard at work online. It is interesting. The Volt is still a work in progress, while the AFS Trinity prototypes really exist and have been shown off to members of Congress and the media. Check out the videos on the AFS website to see for yourself. It’s a PHEV-40, so 40 miles of electric only driving up to 86 MPH.

If the Volt comes at least close to GM promises, then it will be quite extraordinary. The AFS use of ultracaps and parallel hybrid technology makes it incredibly exciting.

Since both use Li-ion batteries, durability should be about the same.

I see the GM PR machine is hard at work online.

]]> By: paul http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2008/05/24/look-out-chevy-volt-afs-trinity-has-a-150-mpg-suv/comment-page-1/#comment-93833 paul Sun, 25 May 2008 04:03:40 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2008/05/24/look-out-chevy-volt-afs-trinity-has-a-150-mpg-suv/#comment-93833 The Volt will achieve 40 miles on battery alone, have a maximum speed of between 100 and 120 mph, and will achieve 50 mpg after having depleted the battery. The AFS Trinity conversion is an after market conversion of an existing GM vehicle. After the battery is depleted, the vehicle will only get approximately 30 mpg. The real comparison between these vehicles is 50 mpg vs 30 mpg. This doesn't take into account that the Volt will probably achieve 50 or 60 miles per charge at the beginning of the life of the battery. 40 miles is targeted after 10 years of use. The Volt will achieve 40 miles on battery alone, have a maximum speed of between 100 and 120 mph, and will achieve 50 mpg after having depleted the battery. The AFS Trinity conversion is an after market conversion of an existing GM vehicle. After the battery is depleted, the vehicle will only get approximately 30 mpg. The real comparison between these vehicles is 50 mpg vs 30 mpg. This doesn’t take into account that the Volt will probably achieve 50 or 60 miles per charge at the beginning of the life of the battery. 40 miles is targeted after 10 years of use.

]]> By: jerry Cherry http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2008/05/24/look-out-chevy-volt-afs-trinity-has-a-150-mpg-suv/comment-page-1/#comment-93666 jerry Cherry Sat, 24 May 2008 20:51:33 +0000 http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:/2008/05/24/look-out-chevy-volt-afs-trinity-has-a-150-mpg-suv/#comment-93666 Susan Wilson obviously is ignorant that Saturn will produce its own plug-in and that it will have a 10 year warranty and lifespan for its batteries. Also that the AFS Trinity batteries don't last more than 5 years and cost a bundle. And the Trinity doesn't drive the first 40 miles on electricity - the gas engine is used for acceleration and higher speeds. After the Trinity runs out of juice it gets 28 MPG, while the Volt achieves almost twice that at 50 MPG. And the MPG is uncertain for the Trinity, but the Volt will achive 300 MPG while commuting and higher MPG while powered by liquid fuel. The triunity ids an amateur job that isn't backed or warranteed. The Saturn warranty is voided by their modification. Only a fool would have the trinity conversion perfomed and I'm sad to see a jourbnalist shill for the company the way Wilson is doing, especially when her facts are not reliable. There actually is no settled method for determining the MPG of a plug in - her claim of 150 MPG is out of the blue, whereas my claim for the Volt commuting is based on govt statisitics. People that don't understand the technology shouldn't be assigned to report on it. This is simply not professional nor acceptable journalistic behavior. Maybe Susan should stick to knitting conventions. Susan Wilson obviously is ignorant that Saturn will produce its own plug-in and that it will have a 10 year warranty and lifespan for its batteries. Also that the AFS Trinity batteries don’t last more than 5 years and cost a bundle. And the Trinity doesn’t drive the first 40 miles on electricity – the gas engine is used for acceleration and higher speeds. After the Trinity runs out of juice it gets 28 MPG, while the Volt achieves almost twice that at 50 MPG. And the MPG is uncertain for the Trinity, but the Volt will achive 300 MPG while commuting and higher MPG while powered by liquid fuel. The triunity ids an amateur job that isn’t backed or warranteed. The Saturn warranty is voided by their modification. Only a fool would have the trinity conversion perfomed and I’m sad to see a jourbnalist shill for the company the way Wilson is doing, especially when her facts are not reliable. There actually is no settled method for determining the MPG of a plug in – her claim of 150 MPG is out of the blue, whereas my claim for the Volt commuting is based on govt statisitics.
People that don’t understand the technology shouldn’t be assigned to report on it. This is simply not professional nor acceptable journalistic behavior. Maybe Susan should stick to knitting conventions.

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