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	<title>Comments on: NebuAd uses spyware practices to track users</title>
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		<title>By: TJ Kirchner</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ Kirchner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification Robb.  I read the executive summary in your report, so I didn&#039;t see the part where you discussed DoubleClick.  I just remembered that DoubleClick use to do user profiling across sites using cookie tracking before they were acquired by Google.  I&#039;m glad to hear things are better now and they don&#039;t generate interest profiles.  Thanks again :)

To answer your question JB, I believe the companies are WOW!, Embarq, Broadstripe, CenturyTel and Metro Provider.  They&#039;re not the giants like Verizon, Comcast, and AOL, but they&#039;re still reputable ISP companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification Robb.  I read the executive summary in your report, so I didn&#8217;t see the part where you discussed DoubleClick.  I just remembered that DoubleClick use to do user profiling across sites using cookie tracking before they were acquired by Google.  I&#8217;m glad to hear things are better now and they don&#8217;t generate interest profiles.  Thanks again :)</p>
<p>To answer your question JB, I believe the companies are WOW!, Embarq, Broadstripe, CenturyTel and Metro Provider.  They&#8217;re not the giants like Verizon, Comcast, and AOL, but they&#8217;re still reputable ISP companies.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which ISPs have customer agreements that allow them to do this?  Any of the big ones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which ISPs have customer agreements that allow them to do this?  Any of the big ones?</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Topolski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robb Topolski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi TJ,

Very good article.  

I also make a comparison between NebuAd and DoubleClick in my paper.  One thing that I learned in my research about this case is that DoubleClick quit its user-profiling efforts several years ago. 

DoubleClick&#039;s cookie, like NebuAd&#039;s cookie, is used to track individual users.  But the similarities end there, since 2002.

Unlike NebuAd, DoubleClick today doesn&#039;t build an interest profile on its users.  DoubleClick does track which ads a user has seen and the cookie helps DoubleClick advertisers show their ads in a sequence.  

NebuAd chooses its ads based on what it thinks the users&#039; interests are by eavesdropping on the user&#039;s Internet service.  

By comparison, DoubleClick shows ads about cars on sites about cars, and may show ads about hotels on sites about travel.  Google has also told me that DoubleClick&#039;s &quot;tracking&quot; cookie intelligence is owned and controlled by the advertiser for use in their campaign.  

My focus was primarily on the technical aspects on NebuAd&#039;s cookie injection occurs.  How it uses the cookies was secondary to my report.  How DoubleClick uses cookies or profiles was likewise not the primary focus on my report, but I do believe that DoubleClick today does not create or use user interest profiles for targeted advertising. 

Robb Topolski</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi TJ,</p>
<p>Very good article.  </p>
<p>I also make a comparison between NebuAd and DoubleClick in my paper.  One thing that I learned in my research about this case is that DoubleClick quit its user-profiling efforts several years ago. </p>
<p>DoubleClick&#8217;s cookie, like NebuAd&#8217;s cookie, is used to track individual users.  But the similarities end there, since 2002.</p>
<p>Unlike NebuAd, DoubleClick today doesn&#8217;t build an interest profile on its users.  DoubleClick does track which ads a user has seen and the cookie helps DoubleClick advertisers show their ads in a sequence.  </p>
<p>NebuAd chooses its ads based on what it thinks the users&#8217; interests are by eavesdropping on the user&#8217;s Internet service.  </p>
<p>By comparison, DoubleClick shows ads about cars on sites about cars, and may show ads about hotels on sites about travel.  Google has also told me that DoubleClick&#8217;s &#8220;tracking&#8221; cookie intelligence is owned and controlled by the advertiser for use in their campaign.  </p>
<p>My focus was primarily on the technical aspects on NebuAd&#8217;s cookie injection occurs.  How it uses the cookies was secondary to my report.  How DoubleClick uses cookies or profiles was likewise not the primary focus on my report, but I do believe that DoubleClick today does not create or use user interest profiles for targeted advertising. </p>
<p>Robb Topolski</p>
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